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Lifting weights while on ADT: hitting a wall?

Posted by bluegill @bluegill, Jan 28 5:30pm

I'm 5 weeks into it (Eligard). This is my second rodeo (the first time I was on it for 3 years).

I've been doing intense weight lifting 3 days a week for several months now, and I thought maybe this would help me keep my energy up and keep the side efffects away. But today I've really noticed they're back.

Crap.

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tjv1156 | @tjv1156 | May 9 3:30pm
In reply to @proftom2 "Absolutely love this topic. Never ever thought I'd say I enjoy weightlifting, but I do. The..." + (show)
@proftom2

Absolutely love this topic. Never ever thought I'd say I enjoy weightlifting, but I do. The message is clear, after aPC diagnosis start lifting weight or some short of resistance training. 5+ Years in on this journey Eligard is a constant companion along with aging issues, and Pluvicto. I am a 3-4 day a week weight lifting guy now. Lite weights, mindful warm ups, 6 reps, follow by many slow and deliberate reps. My gym, Fitness Over Fifty, is a very social place, lot's fun loving conversations, caring for each other, supportive weightlifting buddies, and age related trainings. I am not the only prostate cancer guy in the gym, seems like every guy is dealing with prostate issues. My ideal workout takes about 2 hours, includes stretching, weights, caring conversations, stretchy bands. Every other weeks I include a wellness session with an exercise phycologist discussing exercise (weights, walks, swimming, bike riding + balance), nutrition (not dieting, but eating the right mix of foods, and mindfulness which means books, journaling, and researching health/aging/cancer related issues.

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Sounds like a great plan. Have you had a prostectomy? Radiation?

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proftom2 | @proftom2 | May 9 4:38pm
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@tjv1156

Sounds like a great plan. Have you had a prostectomy? Radiation?

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Yes, it's giving after the surgery.

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tjv1156 | @tjv1156 | May 13 10:07am
In reply to @heavyphil "No. The only indication was a “tiny” (my urologist’s words) break in the capsule. But margins,..." + (show)
@heavyphil

No. The only indication was a “tiny” (my urologist’s words) break in the capsule. But margins, seminal vesicles and lymph glands were all negative.
Hopefully, the Orgovyx and SRT will help us both!
Phil

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OPk- Phil, you're my ' canary in a coal mine'. I start radiation in a week . Am I going to notice a marked difference in overall fatigue? Incontinence? Other?

And did you notice a marked difference in body composition after 6 months of Orgovyx? ( man boobs? )

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heavyphil | @heavyphil | May 14 7:24am
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@tjv1156

OPk- Phil, you're my ' canary in a coal mine'. I start radiation in a week . Am I going to notice a marked difference in overall fatigue? Incontinence? Other?

And did you notice a marked difference in body composition after 6 months of Orgovyx? ( man boobs? )

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Hi tjv, gee I’m honored to be the Tweety Pie who croaks first🤣!
Yes, there is fatigue and the ONLY way to overcome it is to push thru it. The only analogy I can give is being in a snuggly, warm bed on a cold winter morning when suddenly the alarm goes off and even though every fiber in your being says Nooooooo!, you throw off the covers and go to work.
So when all you want to do is sit like s lump, get your freaken ass UP and hit the weights or go for a brisk walk - anything to shake the malaise….
…..otherwise you WILL turn to flab, get the rolls of fat, the boobs and everything else. The Orgovyx adds to the mix for sure, but I took the advice of everyone on this board and busted my hump and I got thru it. You will too👍

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tjv1156 | @tjv1156 | May 14 8:30am
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@heavyphil

Hi tjv, gee I’m honored to be the Tweety Pie who croaks first🤣!
Yes, there is fatigue and the ONLY way to overcome it is to push thru it. The only analogy I can give is being in a snuggly, warm bed on a cold winter morning when suddenly the alarm goes off and even though every fiber in your being says Nooooooo!, you throw off the covers and go to work.
So when all you want to do is sit like s lump, get your freaken ass UP and hit the weights or go for a brisk walk - anything to shake the malaise….
…..otherwise you WILL turn to flab, get the rolls of fat, the boobs and everything else. The Orgovyx adds to the mix for sure, but I took the advice of everyone on this board and busted my hump and I got thru it. You will too👍

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Thanks Phil. If you want to chalk up a benefit to Orgovyx it 's that I'm really sleeping . I was already an early riser, but when that alarm goes off at 5:07 - yeah, I don't feel like getting up. But as you state, I know I have to. Fortunately I have always been in the habit of getting my workouts in early. So I 've found a routine. Get all my workouts in early and then maybe catch a nap after lunch. ( a luxury of being retired) . So far so good. Orgovyx is no picnic, but it's not as bad as I thought it would be.

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bluegill | @bluegill | May 14 10:58am

I was away from the gym for a week and a half (trip to Mayo, transperineal biopsy). I went yesterday, and paced myself. I skipped the machines that might involve any muscles connected to my nether regions, and reduced the weights for upper body. But I felt great afterwards, mentally and physically, to be back in the routine.

Maybe it's my personal placebo.

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bldrhouse | @bldrhouse | May 14 12:20pm

I've been getting an Eligard shot every 91 days for a year; have felt lethargic and mildly depressed all this time. Finally realized -- from this site -- that those are results of the shots; a relief.
My suggestion: maybe don't have to continue the intensity of your workouts while getting the Eligard, and give yourself both the physical and emotional break while enduring the shots?
I've slowly been able to do that for myself and it helped.

z

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bldrhouse | @bldrhouse | May 14 12:21pm

I've been getting an Eligard shot every 91 days for a year; have felt lethargic and mildly depressed all this time. Finally realized -- from this site -- that those are results of the shots; a relief.
Only two more shots in the next six months and hoping my ennui eases.
My suggestion: maybe don't have to continue the intensity of your workouts while getting the Eligard, and give yourself both the physical and emotional break while enduring the shots?
I've slowly been able to do that for myself and it helped.

z

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heavyphil | @heavyphil | May 15 7:18am
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@bldrhouse

I've been getting an Eligard shot every 91 days for a year; have felt lethargic and mildly depressed all this time. Finally realized -- from this site -- that those are results of the shots; a relief.
My suggestion: maybe don't have to continue the intensity of your workouts while getting the Eligard, and give yourself both the physical and emotional break while enduring the shots?
I've slowly been able to do that for myself and it helped.

z

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I agree with you based on my own experience with Orgovyx. It was either lighten the weights and continue to exercise, or get disgusted and say screw it I’m a fat loser.
Just a small adjustment of 10 lbs made all the difference!
Phil

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zzotte | @zzotte | May 18 12:43pm

I’m training harder now and preparation for ADT and EBRT, since I never did like to lift heavy, I do more cardio like kick boxing and Bulgarian bag work outs and some weights, should I do the opposite? More weight less cardio because of side effects of ADT?

Thanks
Zzotte

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