Total knee replacement

Posted by whitewords @whitewords, Apr 19 10:40pm

Hi everyone where ever you are, so I’m 6 weeks post op on my right knee, I’ve got my ROM at about 85, but I’m not complaining, the pain is so horrendous, it’s making me depressed, I’m in Australia so the medication would be different to the US, my doctor told me that I’m on some pretty serious medication, but it’s just not working, the burning sensation is worse to when that epidural wore off. I had my other knee replaced about 8 months ago and the pain was nowhere near as this.
I’m only getting maximum 5 hours sleep a night because I wake up in serve pain.
It’s really dragging me down.

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Very worst decision of my life. I am in constant pain now for 13 years and all the docs do is marvel that i can still bike 40-50 miles.
Yeah i can deal with pain but have near suicidal at times. Cannot hike or walk far or do projects that require getting low. I have seen at least 10 docs in 5 states with no success. Have had arthroscopic but that didn't help. Would consider revision but 6% chance of infection/ amputation.i shoulder on but i gotta say- this single worst decision of my life.

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Profile picture for tkrfuture @tkrfuture

Joe, were your Stryker/Mako robotic assistant surgeries done without cutting quads? I think this is referred to as "quad sparing." I appreciate your story of success! Thank you for sharing.

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Hi tkr,

The Stryker/Mako assistant, as far as I know, did not eliminate the need to cut slightly into the quad muscle(s) just above the knee. As far as I know, this is required to release the patella and move it to the side so the surgeon has easier access to the knee capsule. The patella itself is also "refinished" by removing any arthritic growth and placing a piece of very hard plastic on the back. This also allows the patella to slide easier with the hard plastic prostheses that take the place of the menisci.

As far as recovery, I never even noticed that the quad had been cut. I had no pain, and my surgeon told me it was a small incision necessary to release the patella.

The main purpose of the Stryker/Mako assistant is to take a CT model of the knee and identify the bone that needs to be cut before placement of the metal prostheses. I haven't heard of "quad sparing" - but advancements happen so fast in surgery - it wouldn't surprise me if this was possible.

But even if the quad has to be cut, it's a minor cut and didn't affect my recovery - well, as far as I can tell. The first two weeks of rehab are hard as flexion returns. Bending the knee just hurts, but is necessary (progressively) to restore flexion to the knee (120 degrees or greater). The good news - the pain lessens each day as flexion returns.

I don't think I answered your question. Hopefully you will find some of this useful.

Joe

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Profile picture for lalaj @lalaj

I have had both knees replaced, three years apart. Both are a success. The second (right knee) was more painful, but not horrible. The second also needed a bit more effort to achieve full extension. My right knee (2nd replacement) was in quite bad shape. I had very little pain pre surgery with either knee, but more pain post surgery with the second knee. Now, 7 months post second surgery, I am walking daily, and climbing the hills in my yard. Happy, happy. I am so glad I had my knees replaced, and also so glad it's over.

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Hi lilaj,

Good for you for your persistence in recovery. No two TKR patients are alike, and no two TKRs on the same patient are alike. It takes work to recover, hard work everyday for about 1-2 months. But each day gets better (less painful) and the result is worth the effort.

Great work!

Joe

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Very worst decision of my life. I am in constant pain now for 13 years and all the docs do is marvel that i can still bike 40-50 miles.
Yeah i can deal with pain but have near suicidal at times. Cannot hike or walk far or do projects that require getting low. I have seen at least 10 docs in 5 states with no success. Have had arthroscopic but that didn't help. Would consider revision but 6% chance of infection/ amputation.i shoulder on but i gotta say- this single worst decision of my life.

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I'm sorry to hear about this outcome Mark. I had better luck, but I don't walk for exercise, rather I ride a spin bike 5x/week. I'd bike outside but my lumbar spine is in shambles and I don't want the jarring the road can give. I do love spinning though.

I certainly don't have any answers beyond what your surgeons have provided. I don't know where you live, but have you considered one of the Mayo clinics or the Cleveland Clinic? These are the best hospital/medical facilities in the USA. Maybe you could get a referral from your surgeon...

All the best to you Mark.

Joe

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I did all of those measures... ended up with the MUA though. So many variables to consider.
I can't say enough how valuable an ice machine is for pain alleviation!

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hi there - glad to hear you are improving, bit by bit. Sorry to hear you had to have an MUA. I have had a revision surgery - pretty invasive. Which ice machine did you get, if I may ask? Thank you.

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Very worst decision of my life. I am in constant pain now for 13 years and all the docs do is marvel that i can still bike 40-50 miles.
Yeah i can deal with pain but have near suicidal at times. Cannot hike or walk far or do projects that require getting low. I have seen at least 10 docs in 5 states with no success. Have had arthroscopic but that didn't help. Would consider revision but 6% chance of infection/ amputation.i shoulder on but i gotta say- this single worst decision of my life.

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After dealing with severe Arthrofibrosis for 10 years, I do understand, and have had the same types of dark thoughts. Recent research though, is finding ways to reverse this debilitating scar tissue. Here's hoping it comes sooner rather than later.

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Profile picture for ddsack @ddsack

Yes, there are many who have a positive experience with a TKR. Most people posting here are seeking solutions and possible suggestions when their outcomes were not what they hoped for. The people with good experiences have no need to hang around for very long, so you won't read too many positives here, which is a shame for those considering surgery. I had both knees done, one year apart and am very happy with the results. No more pain, and I can kneel using pads for gardening, full mobility otherwise, stairs no problem. I have 5 friends and/or family members that have had TKR's and none had problems so far.

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Thank you for posting. I’ve been getting knee injections for a few years. First Hyalgan, then steroid. I think I’m getting closer to needing a TKR. My biggest concern was inability to kneel post op. Most people that I know who’ve had one are unable to kneel.

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Profile picture for tkrfuture @tkrfuture

Joe, were your Stryker/Mako robotic assistant surgeries done without cutting quads? I think this is referred to as "quad sparing." I appreciate your story of success! Thank you for sharing.

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The only surgery I know of that doesn't cut the quad is the Jiffy Knee. As a result the recovery is much faster. I'm scheduled for this surgery on July 11 and second knee on Sept. 28th. The second knee is a replacement of a partial knee which I had done using Stryker/Mako.

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Thank you for posting. I’ve been getting knee injections for a few years. First Hyalgan, then steroid. I think I’m getting closer to needing a TKR. My biggest concern was inability to kneel post op. Most people that I know who’ve had one are unable to kneel.

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There are two parts to being able to kneel after TKR's. First is getting back the ability to bend your knee to the needed arc, this depends a lot on putting in enough push through effort during early PT. Some people may not achieve this due to excessive scar tissue or other complicating conditions.
The second is understanding that you are kneeling on a piece of metal which pushes on the surrounding tissue when you put pressure on it, so yes -- it will feel very uncomfortable unless you use a thick soft padding under the knee. When gardening, I use a boat safety cushion with loops that I can drag behind me. When I kneel, I try to position my kneecaps over the edge of the cushion, so I am actually putting pressure below the knee cap along the leg, not on the knee itself.

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Profile picture for lexi2020 @lexi2020

Thank you for posting. I’ve been getting knee injections for a few years. First Hyalgan, then steroid. I think I’m getting closer to needing a TKR. My biggest concern was inability to kneel post op. Most people that I know who’ve had one are unable to kneel.

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I kneel on both of my replacements. But not until 6-8 months after survey. A pad is a must. Feels odd because of cut nerves. But I work in my yard with kneeling pad.

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