Shooting pain in toes and bottoms of feel is worse at night

Posted by sandyhaynes @sandyhaynes, 4 days ago

I am prediabetic and have leg muscle pains plus sciatica. The pain is unbearable on the bottoms of my feet (balls of my feet) when I am in bed. My feel numb sometimes during the day. Is there anything besides compression socks that I can do ?

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I rub magnesium oil on my feet at night and it definitely helps. I no longer experience the nightly shooting pain in my foot but don’t dare stop using the oil for fear the pain will return.

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@sandyhaynes
It is best to get control of your blood sugar and prevent moving to full diabetes and worsening neuropathy. You could work with a dietitian/nutritionist to review nutrition/vitamins/supplements. When I had burning/pins and needles in my feet, I started taking alpha Lipoic acid, Acetyl l carnitine and magnesium supplements, used lidocaine and capsaicin nerve pain creams and patches, avoided long walks when it is warm outside, kept feet cool and dry, and used compression socks/ice packs as needed. You can take melatonin at night to help you sleep (it can also be anti-inflammatory).

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@ladyhawke855

My thoughts exactly! How can your feet be numb yet hurt and Burns like hundreds of hot needles are being poked into your feet. Bedtime is the worse, laying there unable to ignore the pain. I use lidocaine creame put lidocaine patches on the bottom of my feet when the pain is really bad. I wish there were other ways to deal with this pain. I take Tylenol and ibuprofen day and night.

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Hi, @ladyhawke855 ~
It sounds like you are looking for some non-prescription choices. For a number of years I found that Watkins Pain Relieving Liniment Spray was the only topical application that took away some of the pain at night. It must be the peppermint oil or possibly eucalyptus that cools the burning. Here in the Midwest, it can be found at some Menards, in a Watkins products kiosk. I believe there are still home representatives that sell to interested customers, too.
For a few years now, I have been on Pregabalin (Lyrica) and Tramadol every 8 hours and they really keep the pain at bay most of the time, especially at night. It is so much easier to handle challenges in the daytime if one can just get a few hours of sleep at night!
In the end, I believe it is a matter of trying whatever is available to you, to find what will work in your own personal situation. It's a real puzzle. God's blessings to you!
Barb

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@watcher7t

I was on gabapentin taking the max dose and still had pain everyday. My doctor here at Mayo changed it out and now on Lyrica and desipramine. It helps enough to tolerate the spikes most the time but I still get a couple spikes a week that can be quite strong. I agree at bedtime is the worst. The best way I can describe it to people is, when I was a mechanic for almost 30 years the closest feeling to the neuropathy pain spikes is like getting shocked by an ignition coil or a spark plug wire.

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Hi, @watcher7t ~
Yikes ~ that description sounds nasty. I've described the closest feeling (as a female) to my doctors as "having walked for a half mile on super-heated concrete wearing stilettos, then removing them and standing in a tub of ice water". Horrific pain, searing heat, & freezing cold to the point of numbness - all at the same time.
Is it any wonder that communication can be a challenge between males and females? - 🤣😂🤣
Barb

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@bjk3

Hi, @watcher7t ~
Yikes ~ that description sounds nasty. I've described the closest feeling (as a female) to my doctors as "having walked for a half mile on super-heated concrete wearing stilettos, then removing them and standing in a tub of ice water". Horrific pain, searing heat, & freezing cold to the point of numbness - all at the same time.
Is it any wonder that communication can be a challenge between males and females? - 🤣😂🤣
Barb

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I suppose since I haven't ever worn stilettos I can't relate to that description but sounds just as horrific! I can only imagine how terrible it can be after wearing shoes that are a balancing act to learn to walk in...lol

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@bcarlson32

I rub magnesium oil on my feet at night and it definitely helps. I no longer experience the nightly shooting pain in my foot but don’t dare stop using the oil for fear the pain will return.

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Interesting. I've taking magnesium supplements for several years which helped my nightly leg cramps. Never realized there was an oil. I will look into that. Thanks

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@harley22

I asked the same question, why are my feet so numb,yet the nerve pain is unbearable.
I recently broke my left ankle, the bone came thru and yet I felt no pain.
I even felt no post operative pain either.
They all looked at me as if I was crazy.
Someone said my neuropathy was a blessing in desguise in that respect.
I take Tramadol 50 mg at bedtime, along with Tylenol.
That helps me sleep or else I’d be going crazy with my nerve pain.

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Thanks Harley 22. I will ask my doctor about Tramodol. I'd love to get some sleep. For years I've told people I was going to be a Harley riding Grama when I retired. But alas, my vision of retirement has not happened like I dreamed. I hope you can still ride. Sorry about your ankle.

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@ladyhawke855

Thanks for that information. I was on gabapentin for several years, until I started having trouble falling asleep while driving.

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@ladyhawke855 the doctor wanted me on higher doses of Gabapentin having narcolepsy I can’t I take 300 mg before bed and 100 mg in the morning and usually ready for a couple hour nap within about 2 hours of getting up. Before the gabapentin I was taking Naproxen , Cymbalta, My Neurologists said I’m his worst patient I could be a sleep in less than 3 minutes and until I figure out how to get rid of the pack pain from a failed back surgery which I can’t, so he won’t give me any stronger medicine for the narcolepsy. Now that I’m disabled I don’t drive unless it’s to the gym about 10 minutes away

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@bjk3

Hi, @ladyhawke855 ~
It sounds like you are looking for some non-prescription choices. For a number of years I found that Watkins Pain Relieving Liniment Spray was the only topical application that took away some of the pain at night. It must be the peppermint oil or possibly eucalyptus that cools the burning. Here in the Midwest, it can be found at some Menards, in a Watkins products kiosk. I believe there are still home representatives that sell to interested customers, too.
For a few years now, I have been on Pregabalin (Lyrica) and Tramadol every 8 hours and they really keep the pain at bay most of the time, especially at night. It is so much easier to handle challenges in the daytime if one can just get a few hours of sleep at night!
In the end, I believe it is a matter of trying whatever is available to you, to find what will work in your own personal situation. It's a real puzzle. God's blessings to you!
Barb

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Hi
I wonder if anyone can tell help me with a question. I have small fibre neuropathy and if I walk or run too much my feet burn a lot more. I like to exercise and most of the time can cope with the burning. My question is am I doing more damage to my nerves if I walk for miles and make the burning worse

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@alan123123

Hi
I wonder if anyone can tell help me with a question. I have small fibre neuropathy and if I walk or run too much my feet burn a lot more. I like to exercise and most of the time can cope with the burning. My question is am I doing more damage to my nerves if I walk for miles and make the burning worse

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That would be a good question for a professional whose specialty is nerve treatment or pain management. For myself, I haven't found that tempting nature works out in the long run, pun not intended. 😉
I like to stay as active as I can but at 78 and with terrible balance (and pain) issues, I've opted for an indoor recumbent bicycle and a vibration platform with handrails, and I love them both. Try to pursue all the options you can and I wish you the best!
Barb

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