How much of the prostrate tissue is removed during HoLEP

Posted by mauk @mauk, 3 days ago

I had my HoLEP procedure done 3 weeks ago, after reading up on the procedure I am a little confused, if 80% of the tissue remove and a biopsy found 3+4+7 does that mean the remaining 20% is also likely to be cancerous....what would be the next setps??

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I don't have cancer but I did have my 3 month follow up last Thursday and I asked how much of the prostate was removed and the nurse said 150, then she said that was 3/4 of the prostate.

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Probably MRI, if not done already. There is still 25% of a cancerous prostate requiring treatment left in your body. Start asking your urologist questions and get second and third opinions from other uros and RO’s.
Phil

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There is no way of knowing if that remaining tissue has cancer unless a biopsy has been done against that tissue. Discuss with your doctor, the possibility of biopsying the remaining tissue. You could also try doing something like a PSE test, which would tell you whether or not there’s any cancer remaining in your body.

I would be wary of a 3+4 indicating that there was cancer, definitely need more information from your doctors, like where is the location that that 3+4 was found, Compared to what tissue was left.

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Yes agreed--Here is the course of action Decipher--PSMA PET/MRI--PET/MRI of Pelvic with and without regent followed PSA and then appt with Oncologist-
Any idea how the team at UCSF is ..?

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@vernscw

I don't have cancer but I did have my 3 month follow up last Thursday and I asked how much of the prostate was removed and the nurse said 150, then she said that was 3/4 of the prostate.

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Is that 150 in "volume?" As in your prostate was ~200 in volume size?

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What exactly is a number of cores? In my biopsy report after HOLEP there is no mention as to the number of cores, it was 3+4=7 with approximately 5% Gleason pattern 4, is present, and involves approximately 20% of tissue.

How bad is this? Anyone please!!

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@hoops0200

Is that 150 in "volume?" As in your prostate was ~200 in volume size?

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yes, 201 to be exact. And I'm 5' 4" 133 pounds.

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@mauk

What exactly is a number of cores? In my biopsy report after HOLEP there is no mention as to the number of cores, it was 3+4=7 with approximately 5% Gleason pattern 4, is present, and involves approximately 20% of tissue.

How bad is this? Anyone please!!

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There are no cores in a HoLep - they remove the hypertrophied lining and analyze that.
I do not know how many samples of that tissue are scored, but a HoLep is far from a targeted biopsy, so relax for now.
Phil

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@vernscw

yes, 201 to be exact. And I'm 5' 4" 133 pounds.

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Yikes! Mine is 200 even, and I'm 6'7" and 335. My Urologist says we are a rarity. I asked him what might cause it to be that large, and he said, "Son, if I knew that, I would be a Nobel Prize winner."

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@mauk

What exactly is a number of cores? In my biopsy report after HOLEP there is no mention as to the number of cores, it was 3+4=7 with approximately 5% Gleason pattern 4, is present, and involves approximately 20% of tissue.

How bad is this? Anyone please!!

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This is something you can’t ignore. You could try active surveillance but knowing that 20% of the tissue was cancerous means that you need to keep track of this closely if picking AS.

If you got a decipher test and it came in very low, then active surveillance could make sense.

What is your PSA? You don’t mention it, If it’s low like below 3 then maybe active surveillance could work for you.

I would definitely ask the doctor what they would recommend for your situation. Get PSA tests every 3 months if you decide on AS.

It also would make sense to get a second opinion from a different doctor. A Doctor at a center of excellence would be a good choice for a second opinion.

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