Thanks for getting back to me Jim. I can only beat this by not letting it beat me. I am thin-skinned and then the hopelessness sets in. I then get up and get going knowing that the way I feel will not last. Depression is evil, it never wins but never leaves. I think we must accept what is and lose that selfish impulse we seem to have which is self-destruction. We hurt the people who love us and that is wrong. Good Luck, and I am here anytime you need a conversation.