← Return to Radiation vs RARP for IDC prostate cancer with high Decipher?

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Hi, my husband has IDC and some cribriform in one single core, so I did bunch of reading. IDC, cribriform and PDA are just recently recognized as special entities with different predictive implications. There are a bunch of studies now done but none have definitive answers YET . One thing that is sure is that all have unfavorable effect and that is because those variants have a lot of mutations present and those cells even possibly form self protective micro environments. All in all , there is a study that supports RP and we will follow that study. Of course there are some studies that show no specific benefit of RP but we will choose RP. Why - because those cells often evade standard therapies due to so many mutations so by using pure logic physically eliminating those lesions might help. I mean, what is person to do at this point ? There is consensus that those cohorts of patients need novel approach but no new or personalized protocol exists at this point. The ONLY concrete study that showed definite result was in comparison of different ADT drugs and conclusion was that Abiraterone is superior to Docetaxel as first-line treatment for IDC-P . I am completely new to this murky world of PC so I have zero knowledge about ADT protocols and I hope others will jump here to explain what Abiraterone is and how it differs from regular ADT.
BTW - this study also mentioned that 28% of IDC-P positive cases on needle biopsy were actually IDC-P negative at the time of RP (?!?????). WHAAAAA Somebody just shoot me already ...

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believe me, most of us feel your pain! PC is incredibly complex with multiple solutions, and no clear path to the promised land! Find the best people you can to help sort out the pros and cons. I agree there seems to be no treatment regimen in place for idc, which is shocking.

im going with RP as some retrospective studies show IDC may not be as receptive to hormones and RT. (no clinical studies). plus, i want the pathology that will help map the path forward. can also check lymph nodes and seminal vesicles. and it leaves radiation as an option if necessary.

Not sure if you saw this study, but it discusses the problem with patients who have cribriform And then have SBRT radiation. In a very high percentage of cases, there is a reoccurrence, They actually did a radical prostatectomy for a bunch of these people to see what Was going on after radiation.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0893395222002629#bib27
Then there this discussion which covers cribriform risk as well.
https://www.urotoday.com/video-lectures/a-journal-club-for-patients-with-prostate-cancer/video/mediaitem/4452-unfavorable-histology-classification-aims-to-reduce-unnecessary-treatment-journal-club-jesse-mckenney-cornelia-ding.html
Docetaxel is chemo therapy. If a patient has a lot of Metz then they do triplet therapy with ADT, Abiraterone and CHEMO. Otherwise they do doublet therapy with ADT and Abiraterone.