You're not wrong...

Not once have my doctors talked about the side effects of ADT, radiation or chemotherapy.

I have looked those up myself.

I have been "fortunate..." Despite a high risk prostate cancer, GG 4, GS 8, short time to BCR, and rapid PSADT and PSAV, I am here 11+ years after diagnosis

I've had surgery, SRT, triplet and doublet therapy. Total time on treatment, roughly three years...which means eight plus off.

In those 11+ years, I've lived a lot, vacations, birthdays, anniversaries, ski trips with friends, concerts....

If you think statistics, Bell Curve, standard deviations, mean, mode, averages ...I am probably an outlier.

My surgery was nerve soaring and I regained erectile function in 12 months with the help of 5 mg daily Cialis and frequent self stimulation.

SRT did not fry the nerves.

During the 18 months on Lupron and 12 months on Orgovyx I never lost my libido. Genitalia shrinkage, yes, still, I could attain erections.

My recovery of T has been rapid both times, why, I don't know, exercise maybe?

Was there a difference between being on treatment and not in my life, no. The only difference was how I felt living my life. My wife and I did the Ring Road in Iceland, the Bataan Death March Memorial in White Sands, NM with my sister, the Gravel Unbound in the Flint Hills of Kansas, a 55 mile gravel bike ride, with my daughter, skied with friends in Colorado....

I have generally held my medical team to high standards, active listeners, shared decision making, open to other than the standard of care I have also held myself to a high standard, do the homework, know the terns, definitions, take responsibility for my decisions on treatment.

Like I said, I realize I'm an outlier. In part that is because of my approach to managing my cancer and in part, who knows, with my clinical data I should not be on intermittent therapy.

I also realize many on these forums experience the full gauntlet of side effects and less than stellar medical teams.

Kevin