Screening

Posted by heavyphil @heavyphil, Mar 23 9:26am

A 20 yr european study (ERSPC) finds that men who routinely avoid screening have a 45% increase in death from prostate cancer.
If anyone can post this link (I don’t know how and would appreciate learning how) I think it will help us all remember the flip side of wishing we never got screened. Woke me up, for sure!!
Phil

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Thank you! It is written more elegantly than the FOX feed on Yahoo news.
Seems the old “what I don’t know can’t hurt me” syndrome has dire consequences indeed…
Phil

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I'm in the group who only go to the doctor if something is wrong and it doesn't get any better over time. I hadn't been to the doctor in a few years, got pain in my leg, thought it was a muscle pull. After waiting for 3 months, I decided to go to the doctor to fix this "muscle pull". And here I am, stage 4 Metastasized to the bone. I believe regrets lead to depression, so I have none. It is what it is. I would encourage all to get checkups. I actually have an appointment with my new primary care doctor next month, first visit in nearly 4 years. Hope I'm not off topic here. Best to all.

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@stevecando54

I'm in the group who only go to the doctor if something is wrong and it doesn't get any better over time. I hadn't been to the doctor in a few years, got pain in my leg, thought it was a muscle pull. After waiting for 3 months, I decided to go to the doctor to fix this "muscle pull". And here I am, stage 4 Metastasized to the bone. I believe regrets lead to depression, so I have none. It is what it is. I would encourage all to get checkups. I actually have an appointment with my new primary care doctor next month, first visit in nearly 4 years. Hope I'm not off topic here. Best to all.

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No Steve, you’re right on topic! I think your story is all too common - “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”! Why bother the doctor if we feel good, right?
We take better care of our automobiles, furnaces and AC units than we do ourselves…Best,
Phil

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For years, I rarely went to see a doctor without some obvious trauma to deal with (yes - this requires stitches). When I was 60, a chest cold turned out to be pneumonia, and I "got religion." Started doing annual physicals. Got a little off-track about 5 years ago when my primary care doc switched practices and Covid hit. A couple of years ago, I finally decided to follow my old primary care guy to his new practice. First physical showed elevated PSA - turned out to be localized cancer which we've now treated (waiting on first post-treatment numbers).

Now I'm a twice-a-year guy. Full-blown physical each spring and Medicare wellness check each fall. I feel like a well-cared-for HVAC system! 😉

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If you have an iPhone, highlight it, copy and paste to your text app or email. I am not sure if that works for Android phones…
Good info for the hesitant…

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@stevecando54

I'm in the group who only go to the doctor if something is wrong and it doesn't get any better over time. I hadn't been to the doctor in a few years, got pain in my leg, thought it was a muscle pull. After waiting for 3 months, I decided to go to the doctor to fix this "muscle pull". And here I am, stage 4 Metastasized to the bone. I believe regrets lead to depression, so I have none. It is what it is. I would encourage all to get checkups. I actually have an appointment with my new primary care doctor next month, first visit in nearly 4 years. Hope I'm not off topic here. Best to all.

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Thanks for sharing your story. You also have a good perspective on life…

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I would just like to add (as Debbie Downer ) that if your doctor sucks regular visits won't make any difference *sigh. So, yes, go every year BUT make sure your doctor is top-notch ! I personally go to physical every year and it is useless visit every single time. She basically only checks my cholesterol and thyroid level and than chit chat with me for an hour. When I come home and read online her "medical notes" I always have a good laugh since "on paper" I was examined from top of head to the bottom of my feet ! Even breast exam was supposedly performed !!! I mean, hilarious XP . Previous doctor was the same way BTW. So I pay for complete blood-work myself and for urine analysis in local Lab. and do regular mammogram and "hope for the best". AND, don't even start me with my husband's failed surveillance for PC .

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I have yearly "physicals", which included a good ol' DRE and blood workup, including PSA. In 2023, PSA climbed to 6.1 so my GP referred me to urology and they wanted another test done in 30 days. It had then climbed to 6.3 so a biopsy was scheduled 30 days later. It showed Gleason 4+4 and my urologist then ordered a PSME scan, which showed 100% containment within the prostate. However, the scan also uncovered a suspicious nodule in my right lower lung.

Long story short, I had my prostate removed 1/31/23 and 3 months later, had my right lower lung lobe removed. Both surgeries showed no spread and no lymph node involvement. I've been NED for either cancer since (so far)

Suffice it to say, I'm a believer is early detection and management.

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@surftohealth88

I would just like to add (as Debbie Downer ) that if your doctor sucks regular visits won't make any difference *sigh. So, yes, go every year BUT make sure your doctor is top-notch ! I personally go to physical every year and it is useless visit every single time. She basically only checks my cholesterol and thyroid level and than chit chat with me for an hour. When I come home and read online her "medical notes" I always have a good laugh since "on paper" I was examined from top of head to the bottom of my feet ! Even breast exam was supposedly performed !!! I mean, hilarious XP . Previous doctor was the same way BTW. So I pay for complete blood-work myself and for urine analysis in local Lab. and do regular mammogram and "hope for the best". AND, don't even start me with my husband's failed surveillance for PC .

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@surfohealth88 Have you ever requested a copy of your doctor visit reports .?
You will be SHOCKED what they write to protect their a --s . You will think you are reading someone elses report .
A CAUTION : If you use your doctors word only and you are filling out an INSURANCE POLICY based on his verbage only . SURPRISE , SURPRISE - if you have a claim the innsurance carrier will access your " WRITTEN VISIT REPORT " and often deny your claim , as you entered an incorrect insurance question , based on the doctors ' VERBAGE ONLY " .
When you leave the doctors office - Do you know what he writes in you official medical records ? ?? From a wise , long in the tooth . practiced : Personal Injury Lawyer .

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