Anxiety over a recurrence in the future

Posted by rparsons @rparsons, Jan 25 9:46am

Hi I am post radiation & hormone therapy.
During this whole process I developed this
anxiety. Questioning myself on my treatment option I picked & recurrences in the future. I know it’s not logical & we don’t have crystal balls. Can anyone relate & how were you able to overcome it. I never suffered from anxiety before. I do attribute some of it to Elagard. We know it messes with our hormones.
Thank-You

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@kujhawk1978

Dealing with the side effects I think was just a function of understanding that there were things I could control, diet, exercise, managing stress which would mitigate but not eliminate the side effects.

There were the humorous yet effective ways, when my daughter was hone fur Christmas while I was on ADT she came home and asked why I had it set to air conditioning! I was driving with a friend to a game one November, it was cold outside, near zero, he reached to turn the heat on and I said touch that and I'll have to kill you...

Something that helped was each time I went on treatment I was a rapid responder, PSA would drop to undetectable in the first three months, a sign of a durable remission.

I was also confident in my decisions, knowing that I had made the best possible treatment choice with the assistance of my medical team. Those choices were for defined periods, not life sentences.

After surgery, I changed my outlook on treatment from trying to understand if it would work for the next 10-15 years to 3-5. Why, I knew that medical research would bring new treatment agents and imaging during that time, enabling me to do something different.

I kept myself informed, I don't like to use the term "research." It implies a scientific method. Instead I called it literature searches and reviews. Whatever, I could go toe to toe with my medical team on discussions about treatment specific to my clinical data.

I did 22 years in the Army, you learn a lot about accomplishing the assigned mission, how to do mission analysis, determine specified tasks, implied tasks, course of actions, decision making criteria...having branches and sequels to your original
plan...no plan survives contact with the enemy...

Those are some of the ways.

I've been fortunate, no financial toxicity, my insurance has never been an issue.

A work environment that gave me the flexibility i needed...when i needed it.

I've had some great members on my medical team, fired a few too.

To sum it up, attitude...

Kevin

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“No plan survives contact with the enemy”….very good life lesson right there, Kevin.
I think Mike Tyson also has this view. When he was in his younger, ferocious days, a reporter asked him about an upcoming contender’s plan to beat him.
Tyson replied, “Yeah, everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face”😂

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@heavyphil

“No plan survives contact with the enemy”….very good life lesson right there, Kevin.
I think Mike Tyson also has this view. When he was in his younger, ferocious days, a reporter asked him about an upcoming contender’s plan to beat him.
Tyson replied, “Yeah, everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face”😂

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Off topic, but I sometimes wonder if they'd been the same age and met in their prime, whether Muhammad Ali's elaborate strategising would have be enough to overcome Mike Tyson's raw force, the way it was with George Foreman.

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@northoftheborder

Off topic, but I sometimes wonder if they'd been the same age and met in their prime, whether Muhammad Ali's elaborate strategising would have be enough to overcome Mike Tyson's raw force, the way it was with George Foreman.

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Good question…I think the heat and humidity of the Thrilla in Manila really worked against Foreman in a big way. He was gassed completely.
I watched Smokin Joe Frazier wallop Ali really good in two of their fights and his punches were probably in the same league as Tyson’s.
So I think if you turn on the A/C in Manila, Foreman beats Ali. But not sure if Tyson does because once he starts getting frustrated he loses his focus and discipline (Evander Holyfield’s ear bite?) And if Ali could do one thing really well, it’s annoy his opponent into making mistakes. Would have been nice to see, right?

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@heavyphil

I too am a somewhat negative thinker….but only because he who fails to plan, plans to fail. When I go on Amazon to make a purchase I first look at the 1 and 2 star reviews; that’s the kind of guy I am - I always look for the worst instead of the best.
My wife calls me Mr Positively Negative.
I am a worrier and instead of making excuses for it or trying to change my ways, I’ve come to accept what I am. So when I feel doom approaching I laugh at myself, tell myself it’s just business as usual and embrace it.
You just cannot fight the way you’re made!

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heavyphil,
I was having an insecure & anxious day today, so I read your post again. I have to say it calmed me down.
Thank You / Bob

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Mr. Pasons, I have the same feeling as you . Steep family history with PC . My father passed away with it at 67 . He discovered his late in the game I think . Although a smart guy and engineer he hated Dr's and never saw them . Until he had to go overseas and do a complete physical . They found his PSA up over 18.0 I think , could have been higher . He did radiation , but PC slowly got him . Very upsetting for me as him caregiver . I try and distract my mind and go for hikes with my dogs . Helps a lot ! James on Vanc. Island .

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I focus on today. "The past is history the future is a mystery." I do everything that I can to stay in today. Of course, I drift but I make it a point to get back to the present. Get busy living!
Best wishes on your journey.

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@chippydoo

I focus on today. "The past is history the future is a mystery." I do everything that I can to stay in today. Of course, I drift but I make it a point to get back to the present. Get busy living!
Best wishes on your journey.

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James & Chippy thank-you for your response. They are encouraging. I tend to be a worrier & in my career have been trained to look at the future. In business it helps, but in life we can’t & dont want to try & predict the future. I will try & do better on focusing on today. lol
Best wishes.

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@rparsons

James & Chippy thank-you for your response. They are encouraging. I tend to be a worrier & in my career have been trained to look at the future. In business it helps, but in life we can’t & dont want to try & predict the future. I will try & do better on focusing on today. lol
Best wishes.

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I found in my career looking at business forecasts it had about as much success. While it was necessary to do that future is just about as unpredictable.

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Thanks, chippydoo. I just stole your inspirational phrase and posted it on the bulletin board above my desk.

I need to keep busy with projects to try to fend off thoughts of recurrence.

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@bluegill

Thanks, chippydoo. I just stole your inspirational phrase and posted it on the bulletin board above my desk.

I need to keep busy with projects to try to fend off thoughts of recurrence.

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So bluegill you have intrusive thoughts of recurrence as well ? We have to get past this somehow. Re-training the brain I guess. lol there is good advise from everyone here. It’s good to see we are not alone. Please anyone else want to weight in ?

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