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Hello Colleen,
I believe your pharmacist needs to check into hotel reality.
Her opinion is fine provided we lived in a perfect world with perfect doctors with excellent advice who cared about patients suffering but unfortunately that’s not the case.
Bottom line is that the manufacturer doesn't know proper taper schedules and neither do many doctors. Patients shouldn't have to cut pills, remove beads or make suspensions. But what choice do patients really have? The doctors don't follow proper depression system guidelines when prescribing these medications. The pharmacist the doctors the nurses all medical professionals need to look at this issue through the patients eyes but they don't. As I write this reply I am in the emergency room waiting to see the doctor to get some seizure medication which I forgot this morning and I am spending some time over here on the California coast celebrating my cousins birthday. The problem is they are trying to give me generic seizure medication which lowers my seizure threshold. They claim the medicine is the same but it's not, the bioavailability of the drug is different. They’re trying to tell me I won’t have a seizure and that really infuriates me. I told each one of them there statements are irresponsible and I told each one that none of you can predict a seizure but it just goes to show the mentality of some of the medical professionals that we patients run into every single day. They’re not the ones that may have a seizure that could be fatal or suffer withdrawal effects coming off various types of medications.
I apologize for the rant but I know what happens to me and what has happened to many other people at the hands of doctors. I am lucky to be alive today because of the irresponsible prescribing actions of some medical professionals.
Although I have a lot of respect for most medical professionals, I have none for those who are incompetent?
Sorry again for getting carried away,
Jake

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Well stated. Thanks for providing the pharmacist’s input but I totally agree with Jake. He’s spot on. The doctors and pharmacists are trying to put too much into the patients’ hands. I’m tapering from Xanax to Valium at this time. Myself and my doctor decided to put my taper on hold for a bit due to my extreme anxiety about Covid and my sister’s cancer diagnosis. I’m using both Xanax and diazepam at this time. Xanax in the morning, Diazepam in the evening. I’m sick of being looked at like a drug addict when I pick up my scripts. Also tired of answering the same question to the same pharmacist as to why I’m taking two different Benzos. I politely answer everytime she asks and explain about the taper. She acts all confused as though she never even heard of tapering. Tired of being treated like this. I’ve switched pharmacies. Same thing at everyone. Are pharmacists really that ignorant about tapering benzos? They should be our friends not our foes as we go through the ordeal of tapering. It was a doctor of 30 years who got me in this benzo mess. And now I’m treated like a drug addict. Makes me want to forget this whole taper and just cold turkey. I’ll be 68. Whatever happens, happens. I’m too old for all this scrutiny. It was very difficult finding a new doctor that believes in very very slow tapers and now I’m dealing with pharmacists. Too much for me. I’m about done.

@jakedduck1, I agree. Medicine should be practiced in partnership with the patient. I acknowledge that the information supplied by the pharmacist assumes that the patient has a good working relationship with a knowledgeable and compassionate health care provider. And that they have access to medication and refills as needed to taper slowly and safely on a schedule that is individualized to their medical needs - I stress individualize taper schedules, as everyone is different. System and medication guidelines are just that - guidelines. Individual factors should also be considered.

This is not always the case as demonstrated in the many storied and experiences (and sometimes rants 🙂 ) shared here on Mayo Clinic Connect. However, there are many good mental health professionals who do understand tapering and medications. That is why your relentless self-advocacy serves as an example for patients. We have to ask questions and keep asking questions. Share our knowledge about ourselves and find providers who will respect that we have expertise through experience which is a valid contributor to medical decisions.