I used the max, but some people here definitely needed to start lower, and some were not able to ever get to eight.

One method is to start low, let's say 3, and if that goes well, try 4 the next day, and so on. Find out how far you can go.

I also started at 8. Didn't know that starting lower was an option at that point; I believed the literature 😂. But I had only mild and very brief side effects so I wouldn't have wanted to lower the dose anyway.