Is exercise with ADT the Secret Sauce?
Over 2 months in on Lupron and have found exercise seems to be the secret sauce that makes me feel normal. I have mountain biked for 35 years and recently invested in an E-bike. Seems to be the gift that keeps on giving. The E-bike is much easier to target aerobic zones, can push through mild headaches and feel great hours after an 1-1.5-hour ride in the forest. It also knocks down any depression and I sleep uninterrupted all night long. The hardest part is pushing out of the easy chair to get going. "Just do it" is my mantra. Has anyone else experienced the benefit of exercise while on ADT?
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Exercise is an essential element of using ADT. You really need to exercise with the equivalent of weights and aerobic exercises. There are a lot of seminars on exercise for prostate cancer patients. After being on Lupron For seven years and Orgovyx for a year my testosterone is low. I walk about a mile on a track twice a day and go to the gym three days a week to do weight training. I thought that was sufficient then some review I heard said that if you’re over 65 you should go to the gym four times a week. Thanks a lot!!! I do benefit from all this exercise because I don’t have the fatigue problem. I’ll work hard in the gym and come home and walk out to the track.
During the ancan.com advanced prostate cancer weekly meetings Exercise is a constant topic. When people mention fatigue as a problem, multiple people will comment about the need for exercise
I have found exercise the cure for fatigue. I find the push away the hardest part. The push away from the table, the easy chair and the house. Always rewarded when I do and with favorable weather around the corner, I will be busy getting after it. My body is my medical study. NO real local support groups in my area that I am aware of. All of you on this Mayo site are it.
Biking definitely helped me a lot. Like you, I got an e-bike because I was afraid of fatigue meaning I'd be unable to make it home but for the most part I ride with pedal assist off and only use it when I want to go for much longer rides. It's also saved me from being hit by cars a couple times--I just go full throttle and it gives me a quick burst of speed.
I also find swimming a really good exercise that makes my entire body feel good.
I lift weights every other day which means 3x a week one week and 4x a week the next. I don't like it but I don't mind it either.
I find it most difficult to push out of that easy chair or similar to go and exercise. I try to make an extra effort to least get in some extra steps by walking daily. I tire easily. I used to be so active and had some decent stamina. But not now. I also got some 5 lb weights but can't get into rhythm of using them. Maybe as you guys are implying, I need to make more of a mental change to exercise.
I'm 84, so a lot of exercise and weights etc., brings me lingering arm and leg muscle pain due to my age and a slow recovery of muscle micro-tissue repair. I do engage in a very active hour at tennis each week after popping a Tylenol. I actually get a runner's high out of that activity which is cool. I'm looking forward to playing golf again soon and in the past I've avoided using a cart when possible (depending on the course). Biking I have done as well.
'I've got to keep on movin' from Matthew Wilder's song, 'Break My Stride' is a rhythmic upbeat motivator tune for me. In some weird way ADT has led me to a better diet, exercise plan, etc., so maybe from a disagreeable, albeit necessary, therapy comes some good. P-cancer will NOT break my stride if I can help it.
It is all mental for me. I have to ask myself what's the payoff? The answer is I actually feel better, sleep better and keep my weight in check. My next activity will be weightlifting. Used to love to lift now I need to go to protect the mass I have left and have been procrastinating. Responding to you got me motivated to go for a ride. It works!
Yes, exercise makes a huge difference for minimising side effects on ADT. My one caution is that overdoing it (with strenuous exercise) can send me off a fatigue cliff for a few days — much more so than before I have cancer — so for me, at least, it's a case of slow and steady wins the race. You don't need to run a marathon or bench press your weight. Just stay active, work out regularly with light weights and high reps, go for long walks, etc. YMMV.
That has also been my experience. I use a chest strap heart rate monitor as a throttle to keep me in the aerobic range and out of higher ranges. I can so relate to the "fatigue cliff". Wounds me for 2 or 3 days, so now avoid it. Great point!
Yes to resistance training, at least for me.
I had a funny encounter with a future neighbor. I've decided to go ahead and spend my life savings building a summer home in the woods (Cancer be damned!). So a future neighbor stopped by, while I was resting on the tailgate of my pickup. We chatted for awhile, and then he glanced down at my large pickaxe, and said "Oh my God! I'm glad I have power equipment!"
I tried to explain to him that I enjoy widening my driveway with the pickaxe because I need to do lots of exercise to counteract the effects of an anti-cancer drug I'm on.
He just looked at me like I was from another planet.
I should add that the local "soil" is about 90% rock with a bit of clay between the rocks. It's a great workout!
I hear you. A snowblower wouldn't really work in my urban neighbourhood (narrow laneways between houses, etc), but I wouldn't buy one even if it would, because pushing the snow all the way around to the back fence gives me a great natural workout every winter.