Best excercise to combat ADT therapy side effects?

Posted by rgillis @rgillis, Jul 21, 2023

it looks like walking is the winner with emphasis on some type of weight training. it also seems to align with just about anything that gets us out of the chair, couch or bed.

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@mccannr, did you hear back and get enroled in the cancer survivorship program and/or the pickleball program? How are you doing?

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@mccannr

I'm 74, on orgovyx and looking at brachytherapy followed by beam radiation. I learned about two programs sponsored by my cancer center and the ymca. One is called project ralley and supports pickleball, and the other is called cancer survivorship. I emailed them and I''m waiting to hear back

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I’d be interested in the cancer survivorship component. I suspect my interpretation with the term “moderate” doesn’t match the actual regimen if I look at the comments here. And I hate exercising.

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@scottbeammeup

Find an exercise that's also good for your spirit. For me it was mountain biking and hiking with my dog. Even when I was severely depressed from the whole thing, watching how happy my dog was sniffing around in the woods made me feel better. Also, mountain biking forced me to keep my attention on what I was doing so I didn't fall vs. being in the doom loop that was constantly playing in my head.

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My radiation oncologist said NO bike riding, I used to ride everyday about 20 miles, he even banned riding a recumbent.

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@hanscasteels

I’d be interested in the cancer survivorship component. I suspect my interpretation with the term “moderate” doesn’t match the actual regimen if I look at the comments here. And I hate exercising.

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I've been told to hold tight and that they are developing a survivorship program through my local Palm Harbor Fl YMCA

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I'm stage 3 having had 8 week external beam radiation treatments in conjunction with 2 year plan of daily ADT oral (Orgovyx and Zitega), just hitting one year mark on the ADT.
I was strongly encouraged prior to starting ADT to get on a disciplined resistance training regimen, which I did in addition to getting a personal trainer to set up a few workout schedules, which had the added benefit of " re-introducing" me to the multiple pieces of gym equipment and how to properly use them.
I also ride my e-bike but hit the gym at least 5 times per week (I'm retired and soon to be 69)
The coaching I got was that while all exercise is good for ADT patients, resistance training is best of all given the complete testosterone drain and the impact of that on musculature, as well as being a good offset to battling fatigue (getting myself to the gym regularly is a challenge some days but I always feel great after doing so).
I hope this is helpful, it works for me, but I would certainly advocate for ANY type of exercise as being crucial for an ADT patient to participate in regularly.

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@hanscasteels

I’d be interested in the cancer survivorship component. I suspect my interpretation with the term “moderate” doesn’t match the actual regimen if I look at the comments here. And I hate exercising.

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I think Carlspackler’s advice is the one I would recommend. ADT turns everything to flab rather quickly and trying to reverse this trend later is much harder. So yes, weights are recommended and you don’t have to “pump iron” either. Ten pound dumbbells are sufficient to perform a range of exercises while you watch TV, listen to an audiobook or music.
As for aerobics, nothing beats walking at a brisk pace for 30 mins - more if you can - outside or on a treadmill; cycling is great as well.
Some people LOVE exercising; I know I used to….but now I view it as a chore and do it grudgingly and only because I know I need it to counteract ADT.
I will still continue to exercise, but in a more relaxed way, not as regimented, and now that spring is almost here I will enjoy digging, planting and hauling bags of mulch and stone - instead of lifting weights indoors.
And Hans, if absolutely none of this appeals to you, screw it all and buy a new wardrobe which hides the flaws and flatters whatever physique is left😉

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@heavyphil

I think Carlspackler’s advice is the one I would recommend. ADT turns everything to flab rather quickly and trying to reverse this trend later is much harder. So yes, weights are recommended and you don’t have to “pump iron” either. Ten pound dumbbells are sufficient to perform a range of exercises while you watch TV, listen to an audiobook or music.
As for aerobics, nothing beats walking at a brisk pace for 30 mins - more if you can - outside or on a treadmill; cycling is great as well.
Some people LOVE exercising; I know I used to….but now I view it as a chore and do it grudgingly and only because I know I need it to counteract ADT.
I will still continue to exercise, but in a more relaxed way, not as regimented, and now that spring is almost here I will enjoy digging, planting and hauling bags of mulch and stone - instead of lifting weights indoors.
And Hans, if absolutely none of this appeals to you, screw it all and buy a new wardrobe which hides the flaws and flatters whatever physique is left😉

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… on my way.

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I'm in my 4th year of Eligard, and I'm betting my life on resistance training. Every time I push forward on, say, the chest press machine, it's a small victory. It's therapeutic. I feel better physically and mentally after each session.

I listen to podcasts on my mp3 player while I work out. Usually it's mindfulness meditation, in a foreign language I've decided to learn (Portuguese).

Yes, I'm weird.

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@mccannr

My radiation oncologist said NO bike riding, I used to ride everyday about 20 miles, he even banned riding a recumbent.

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Interesting as I took my bike to radiation and mountain biked after radiation therapy. (no prostate) RO said nothing about it. But then again, he never said anything about anything. Just asked questions. Modern healthcare in Richmond pretty much stinks.

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I'm 65 and 6 weeks into a 6 month Orgovyx regimen. I lift weights twice a week and do body weight calisthenics once a week, run 4-5 days a week (30 - 40 miles), and a couple times a week either row or do a 3-4 mile walk with a 20# pack. I've been doing most of this for years so I didn't have to start anything new, but I am being more diligent about it than before. I have no idea what specifically is doing what, but I have zero side effects (except for a loss of libido, and since I don't currently have a partner even that's not a big deal). I eat a high protein (1 gram/lb) diet to promote muscle growth and recovery. I start 28 days of proton therapy in about a month, so we'll see what happens then.

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