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Here is one possibility of things you can look at for BPH I came up with, doctors use dutasteride and similar for BPH but they don't really solve problems

Testosterone / estrogen ratios improvement protocol v005

This is geared for one potential cause of BPH, there likely are other causes. This is what I came up with after a lot of reading. Have a holistic doctor, naturopath, primary care, or other doctor order labs for you (testosterone, estrogen and progesterone) and hopefully have useful suggestions. A good testosterone to estrogen ratio for a male that is 40 or older should be around 10 and up, though it is much higher in younger men. The units may differ on T and E but you want the ratio of the two at 10 and up on a US run lab (not international or S.I. which may differ). If it is quite a bit lower there are some things you can do.

Symptoms of poor Testosterone / estrogen ratio in men include (You may have just one or two or a little of a few and not all of these):

• BPH and sometimes prostate cancer follows
• Low libido
• Hair loss
• Weight gain & body fat
• Gynecomastia (“man-boobs”)
• Erectile dysfunction
• Muscle loss
• Fatigue

Things to do - knowing we are people with prostate problems including PCa.

• If PCa and BPH, don’t take exogenous testosterone (like injections) unless approved by physicians, so only work on natural was to raise the Testosterone portion of the ratio. That would mean exercise, controlling blood sugar, etc.
• Try things to lower estrogen. Some natural ways are cruciferous vegetables. Supplements include Sulforaphane glucosinolate (SGS) and DIM as these derive from cruciferous vegetables. Be sure the DIM and SGS work right for you, as they may not always do the job or an inadequate one. These are a good first try and these supplements are OTC, just buy a high quality one. My personal experience is these don’t work that well.
• Avoid plastic touching food especially hot food, as it has “xenoestrogens” which to the body are just like estrogen. That means dump all plastic storage containers, especially older ones. Some filter all drinking water to get plastics out.
• Think about avoiding meat, see movie called Game Changers and what meat does, there are compounds in meat that are prostate unfriendly. https://gamechangersmovie.com/
• Talk to your doctor about progesterone as it is a truly natural anti-estrogen but only if ratios are really bad (well below 10). Protocol for using OTC progesterone below

Things you will need
1 OTC progesterone (Amazon search: progesterone USP micronized powder)
2 1/64 tsp measuring spoon (about the size of half a tic tac if you remember those).
3 Table spoon
4 Pure Olive oil in a dropper

You will need a very small amount of progesterone daily with breaks from time to time (more than a full week break). Use a low dose suitable for men and doctors ordering labs to help (estrogen and testosterone), so it does require a doctors help for that. Trans-mucosal administered progesterone may produce best results. Progesterone Powder USP, Bioidentical Micronized Powder can be dissolved into tiny amounts of oil with a measuring spoon. For men 1/64 tsp (use the tiny measuring spoon), dissolve into drops of Olive oil on a table spoon, mix around with finger. Apply with finger transmucosally or on gum area of mouth 30 minutes before bed. It will make you sleepy, just be aware of that. Have labs often to recheck the T/E ratio. Do take plenty of breaks from progesterone.

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I used DIM for about a year and saw no noticeable changes in my body or drop in PSA values. I think a lot of these supplements (not talking progesterone because that is a real hormone) work best in vitro and all of us handle it differently metabolically.
I also ate enough organic broccoli- stalks and all - to almost turn green, yet here I am on this prostate cancer forum. I want my money back😫