Resolution of Side Effects after Stopping ADT/Lupron
Hello everyone. I am 70 years old and was diagnosed with PC about 2 and a half years ago, G9 with extra capsular extension but node negative on RP !0/21. Rising PSA post op with PSMA PET revealed solitary met T8 treated with SBRT. Again, rising PSA (rapid doubling time) with repeat PET revealed positive LN in pelvis. Sought systemic treatment at Johns Hopkins. Immediately started on ADT (3 month Lupron), Darolutamide and chemo with Taxotere. After second chemo treatment my PSA was undetectable and has thankfully remained so. My MO kept me on Lupron for one year so my last 3 month injection was July 2023.
I have experienced significant fatigue, hot flashes, loss of body hair (partly due to chem but hair head grew back, loss of libido, muscle loss and joint stiffness/soreness, depression and poor concentration and genital shrinkage as a the result of the Lupron. Pretty much the full monty.
My question to those that were on ADT and then taken off: how long before the symptoms improve or completely go away? I know it is dependent on return of testosterone and that is variable. My testosterone was in the 500s pre Lupron and my last blood draw (Dec 5, 2023-2 months after the 3 month Lupron should "quit working") my Testosterone was < 3. Fortunately the hot flashes are abating.
I read in the literature that it can take a year or more but is dependent on multiple factors. I have found the real life experience of those on this forum to be more helpful to me for questions like this.
Any help with specifics regarding the above side effects would be greatly appreciated.
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Very good advice I should have gotten a second opinion from the start, my bad
In reply to @pkeith
Wow! I was thinking something of that nature.
Just something else to be concerned with and worry about.
Thank you!
There is so much to learn here.
Unfortunately, most is not good!
Best wishes to you,
PAUL
Just a few observations:
It would be unusual for "loss of use of legs" (if you mean he is paralyzed below the waist) to be due to sacral fractures. The nerves affecting motor function of the lower extremities exit above the sacrum. Does he have any fractures in the spine elsewhere? Sacral fractures can be difficult to heal but can be treated by an Interventional Radiologist doing a procedure called sacroplasty. Using CT guidance, a needle is placed into the fracture and cement is injected to stabilize the fracture. This is performed for unrelenting, persistent pain for fractures that won't heal after a few months.
The whole purpose of any ADT medication (Orgovyx/Lupron) is to severely lower the testosterone level. How long the T stays depressed is mainly dependent on: 1) patient age, 2) length of time on ADT and 3) the T level prior to beginning treatment. Older men (>70) may never regain normal (>250-300) levels of T. Once T level becomes normal, most men regain libido. It may take time, exercise etc to build bone mass if the T levels return to normal. I do not know about the anemia.
Reportedly, men tend to regain T levels faster after discontinuation of Orgovyx than Lupron.
They never monitored your husband’s blood for alkaline phosphatase? Calcium levels? Those are pretty good indicators of bone destruction.
Go back and look at his enzyme tests snd see if it’s there.
Thanks for the comments. Lost the use of his legs does not mean paralysis but rather that after 9 months of ADT, he suddenly could not walk nor stand without a walker and also had excruciating pain down both legs ; a CT and MRI confirmed 2 severe fractures in his sacrum with accompanying bone loss. A trauma surgeon in Raleigh inserted 2 screws to stabilize the fractures, but after 7 months, the fractures have not healed due to the "poor quality of the bone" after ADT.