Quitting cold turkey was horrific for me as well. I seriously do not know how or why I thought I could do it again. So far it's been working, but I don't feel I am completely out of the woods. Yesterday I began experiencing emotional outbreaks randomly and when that happened the zaps return. It was mild, doable, but the emotional rollercoaster yesterday was not fun. I am going to start researching natural foods/ vitamins that help with endorphins. I don't want to ever go back to Effexor again. 🤦🏼‍♀️