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Surgery for thoracic outlet syndrome

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@closer0043

It’s funny you mention PTs being against the surgery. I have been through a lot of PT over the years, and haven’t met one who ever didn’t think they could fix me to avoid surgery. I have had 8 surgeries in the past 14 years, and I only would have avoided one of them in retrospect. I had a knee meniscus clean up that didn’t help much. I believe the arthritis was already the culprit at that point. I’ve also had both hips resurfaced, both rotator cuffs repaired, ankle bone spur removed, double hernia, and a partial knee replacement. All of my surgeries have been very successful. Other players are amazed when I tell them I have 2 metal hips!
The one other symptom I forgot to mention from the TOS is I started having trouble breathing deeply about 2 years ago when running sprints. Alhough, I still can’t find a doctor to agree with any of my neurological symptoms having anything to do with TOS. I still have occasional bouts of dizziness, frequent head ringing, fatigue, brain fog, and facial numbness on the affected side. They just dismiss the MSK Neurology TOS explanation as not peer reviewed,

I just don’t want to have a stroke from trying to play through this. Look up the MLB pitcher JR Richard when you get a chance. He was an all star pitcher who had a stroke from a blood clot in his neck while warming up before a game or practice. He was complaining for a couple of months of having a dead arm when throwing and having arm fatigue after not many throws.

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@closer0043 You are correct about TOS causing breathing issues because of causing so much tension on the rib cage interfering with its motion. When ribs expand, it creates a vacuum that expands the lungs bringing the inhalation. Often TOS is worse on one side, and for me my left side is tighter. The left side of my ribs don’t move to expand as fully as the right which means the left lung does not move as much. I have had repeated left sided chest infections because the phlegm does not clear as well. I also have allergies and asthma that add to that problem increasing the phlegm.

I do stretch muscles in my neck and chest using objects to push against the skin to create a shearing force. I go by feel of where the tightness is and I hold the pressure and wait. I can feel when it loosens when fascia starts to slide, and after this, I am able to start clearing phlegm from my lungs. I use tools to be the hands of a massage therapist and the key is to hold the shearing pressure and wait for a change which could take 5 minutes. I use small balls, a Davinci tool. and various things like a question mark shaped wand that has rubber knobs on one end. I can lay on my back and use both arms to direct it using the weight of my arms to help. I can also lay on my side and roll against this to get a force on the pectoral muscles from the center of the chest outward. I will reposition this and change direction just going by feel. I get a push upward by using a tool against a doorway while I am standing and pushing my chest upwards against it. I hope your PT understands this self massage, and this is how MFR works. This is how you stretch the fascia without having to stretch your arms in ways that aggravate the TOS.

Have your PT show you how to do this and you have to stay off of the arteries and veins when applying pressure or a direct nerve compression such as in the arm pit. You can work on the hard traps and Lats. Webbing straps are useful for arm pulls if you secure it on one end and use body weight to lean against it. I find it useful to work the area right under the collar bone and pull downward with a tool like a ball. This will pull on the neck on the tight fascia that is gluing it together and up into the scalenes. I can also lay face down on top of balls positioned on my chest and abdominal muscles.

If you can do this MFR stretching now, that may help your surgeon if your tissues can be loosened. I did this prior to my spine surgery and that helped in being more supple for retraction during surgery. With your multiple surgeries, you have scar tissue that adds to tightness. Think of it as a connected net holding your body together. My PT can stretch on my neck and I feel the pull down my entire body to my ankles. TOS is like wearing a straight jacket,