Well said phil. I live in a retirement community and am in the lower half of the economic scale here. I don't hate the wealthier folks, but maybe there is a little envy. The same is true for survivor5280. I don't hate your "wealth" of good results, but maybe there is a little envy. To add my two cents, I just had a male sling implanted (two years after my RALP), even though my surgeon said I was continent. Continence, (or success) by the urology profession's definition, is one pad per day. Did anyone's surgeon mention that in their consultation? I was still filling one pad during golf, hikes and pickleball but my surgeon said I was healed. Yes, my cancer is gone, and I may not have changed the decision for removal back in 2023, but the profession needs to be more up front about what they consider continence to mean. I went with a guy who has 90% of his patients achieving continence and I added to his success rate. But I just had sling surgery to fix my incontinence.