Thanks to both of you Tom and David
I may keep the condom catheter in mind if this goes on for months and months. I guess at this point, I am reading that a big majority of men need three months at least ( and some say this applies to those between 40 and 60 not in their 70s) I hate incontinence, I hate not getting good sleep but I guess I will continue with bladder re=training and kegels and now no coffee to just see if I can get back to what was normal