Is 76 too old for prostate cancer surgery?

Posted by bobv48 @bobv48, May 25, 2024

A urologist my brother asked regarding my wondering about surgery vs radiation said that no one 76 years old should get the surgery. Does this square with what anyone else may have heard?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Prostate Cancer Support Group.

I was a 68 yr male. 1 of 12 samples with 3+3 nothing in the margins and PSA 1.2. I used your exact philosophy. Dr told me it turns to a raisin after radiation. Dr recommended doing nothing since I wasnt having any issues. My testosterone wasnt high but about 500 with no ED issues. I ended up with ED after surgery. 3 years after surgery no sign of cancer. I requested a testosterone check and found it to be 250. I signed a waiver and went on a topical cream. It now runs about 700. That gives me everything I need. Energy, No lack of desire, healthier outlook. Its been 4 1/2 years. I still have only a partial erection. However I dont have a sexual partner. No stimulation.

REPLY

My friend had surgery at 79. No complications but you will have incontinence. Still better than cancer living within you.

REPLY
@hammer101

Bobv48, looks like you have received a lot of great advice. For myself, If you are in good health with no other life limiting issues, I am an advocate for addressing the prostate cancer versus letting it grow and potentially metastasize. I was 55 when I was diagnosed with PC (Gleason 4/3), was in excellent physical shape, no other comorbidities, and had an want for 30+ additional years of cancer free life. I did all the research to ensure I picked a center of excellence (Mayo-Rochester), and went with a robotically assisted radical prostatectomy. I am 1.5 years out from surgery and all looks good thus far --> PSA undetectable, fully continent, and erectile function back.

In my opinion, age is a number, and you should make a decision on your personal physical and emotional health. If I were in good shape at the age of 72, I personally would want 20 more years of cancer free life, thus active surveillance or watchfully waiting for the cancer to grow and possibly metastasize would be off the table. However, if I had other comorbidities, this decision would obviously change.

In my opinion, the biggest advantage of surgery is removal of all known cancer and having the ability to perform a post surgery pathology to define margins & evaluate the cancer more thoroughly. Other treatment plans rely on imperfect imaging and biopsies to guide the treatment. I have personal family history (uncle) and read about far too many men who went with a less invasive treatment plan and lived to regret it. For myself, life was my #1-need, with a high want for continence, and a far lower want for erectile function. In the end, the only treatment plan that made sense for my personal situation was the radical prostatectomy at a center of excellence (with the best surgeon I could find). From what I have seen, men that do not utilize a center of excellence are at a far higher risk of incontinence, impotence, or other complications.

As always, the above comments are my personal experiences. Each man has to decide for himself what treatment best fits his wants/needs. In the end, we need to be confident in our treatment decision and live with the consequences.

Good luck on your decision and hope all goes well.

Jim

Jump to this post

Thanks for sharing. It's been my observation that most men regret having radical prostatectomy and have had a good amount of issues associated with surgery. Incontinence, ED, and many others after years. Sounds like you were one of the few that came out unscathed.

REPLY
@tuckerp

I was a 68 yr male. 1 of 12 samples with 3+3 nothing in the margins and PSA 1.2. I used your exact philosophy. Dr told me it turns to a raisin after radiation. Dr recommended doing nothing since I wasnt having any issues. My testosterone wasnt high but about 500 with no ED issues. I ended up with ED after surgery. 3 years after surgery no sign of cancer. I requested a testosterone check and found it to be 250. I signed a waiver and went on a topical cream. It now runs about 700. That gives me everything I need. Energy, No lack of desire, healthier outlook. Its been 4 1/2 years. I still have only a partial erection. However I dont have a sexual partner. No stimulation.

Jump to this post

Surgery with a G6, 3+3??
Whoa, very seldom should that happen of at all, unless there are other circumstances like more than half cores etc, and even then there are radiation options.

REPLY
@mikaylar

My friend had surgery at 79. No complications but you will have incontinence. Still better than cancer living within you.

Jump to this post

If a physician recommends prostate removal at age 79, they should be indited, that's criminal. Most Drs won't recommend past 75. And that's pushing it, dependent on Gleason. I just read a comment whereby a man had G6 3+3 and had a radical prostatectomy.

REPLY

Right that should never happen.

REPLY

Ran into an old friend yesterday - we were both buying Valentine’s Day candy for our wives.
He told me he was just diagnosed with PCa and had a Gleason 7, “but the bad one”.
I told him that I had that exact diagnosis 6 yrs ago at age 64. My friend is 75 yrs old.
I told him to stay away from surgery and opt for any kind of radiation and ADT because the side effects of those were much less (in my case) than those from surgery.
The 10 yr (probably 15 by now) outcomes for surgery and radiation are basically the same so why risk diapers and other issues when there is a clear choice at hand.
I told him it was just my opinion but he hugged me and told me that I had just confirmed his feelings and he was going to cancel his surgical consult and go to the RO I used at Sloan.

REPLY
@airborn

Thanks for sharing. It's been my observation that most men regret having radical prostatectomy and have had a good amount of issues associated with surgery. Incontinence, ED, and many others after years. Sounds like you were one of the few that came out unscathed.

Jump to this post

Surgery at 72; Salvage Radiation Treatment at 73; G 9; undetectable uPSA about 1 yr post treatment so far.

1 - I do not regret RP and would choose it again.
2 - I think any man should carefully and fully try to understand RP vs RT for their individual situation, age, physical condition and commorbidities, as well as their recovery history from surgery.

My belief is that many who have had successful treatments, RP or RT, are not proportionally represented on forums such as this one, and understandably.

There are many issues to consider when choosing treatments, and certainly age is one.

REPLY

I had surgery at 73. I had to pass numerous tests to make sure I was in excellent health. My surgery was confirmed the night before it was scheduled. The surgery went well: I was released to go home and recover the same day. I’m grateful for my smooth recovery and for each day.

REPLY

I had surgery when I was 2 months shy of 75 and that was 3 years ago for Gleason 9 locally advanced PC. The surgery was easy on me, no pads needed, have ED but then I am now 78. I have not had salvage radiation but that may be in my future. I think that I made the right decision and I think that I was and still am lucky.

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.