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What you say is true..to a point. Drs necessarily rely only on what we as patients tell them at a given point and time. They rely entirely on this. Others who are around us have far more reflective value when they see changes on a daily basis.

Psychiatrists nowadays see you for 15 or so minutes and Hague how you are doing. I’ve seen this pattern to be true time and time again. Physicians, by contrast, are indeed trained in various aspects of medicine and with specialization to boot. Physicians are, however, making well educated guesses. I do not say this flippantly because I have family and friends that are well respected mds and would attest to this.

You will get physicians who disagree with each other all the time and misdiagnose all the time. I won’t bother to get into the vast history of this fact.

So if you take a specialist in psychiatry who sees you for 15 -30 min once every three months to Hague how you’re doing when you feel lucid,

and you take patients that may or may not have psychological services on the outside,

And you take other conditions that may or may not exist under the care of a general practitioner or multitude of specialists who generally don’t communicate with each other...

It becomes fairly obvious the patient is well advised to be a skeptic.

Patients may or may not have insurance and the sophistication to connect the dots, follow their own comprehensive progress and take charge of their health.

I have confirmed that insurance and pharmaceutical industries do have a significant impact on what medicines are used or not...again...personal family and friends who attest to wide spread practice of influence.

History, science, social interactions and pressures Demonstrate a constant evolution that is frequently not always in keeping with the Hippocratic oath. It is not enough to say it’s the best we have. It is more correct to say it is but a cog in a very complex wheel (a critical cog) that contributes to a whole.

The reasons I have listed are some of the modern realities patients face but they ARE realities.

I will acknowledge that the internet has led to a tidal wave of self diagnosing experts who cherry pick symptoms or rely solely on anecdotal evidence. This is how people have done for generations and that habit indeed has led to misery and tragedy for untold numbers...especially the desperately ill.

My point is this, blind faith in mds is a dangerous thing. Indeed, they are human and everything I described that goes with it. Patients (or their guardians) bear the responsibility to question medicine practitioners. It’s a multiple person effort.

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If a psychiatrist is only seeing you for 15 minutes (particularly for an early meeting) try to find another psychiatrist. I had a friend who went to a psychiatrist on his wife's insistence. After 15 minutes the psychiatrist diagnosed him with ADD and sent him home with Adderall. He needs support (but probably not medication) - and now won't see anyone based on his crap experience.

My first visit with my psychiatrist was nearly 90 minutes - and it was simply to start the Effexor taper process and look at my meds overall. My second visit with her is Wednesday and will be 45-60 minutes. I was referred to my psychiatrist by my therapist.

Very wise - question medicine practitioners. I'm bipolar, on meds that are obviously not working because I nearly got violent a few hours ago. I'm old, been thru much.Knew I was going to become violent and wisely retreated. The med I'm on, Effexor, has more side effects than it's worth. And my poor people Medicare clinic doctor "forgot" he had even prescribed Effexor, asked me why I was on it. St Louis Missouri Affinia Health is crap Stay away.