Does medical marijuana work for chronic pain?

Posted by mmoss @mmoss, Mar 27, 2021

Does Medical marijuana work for chronic pain. Looking for alternatives to Vicodin.

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Truthfully,it doesn't matter to me! If you have chronic pain and are 75 years old as I am, finding any relief is pure joy...even if temporary. Opioids helped me and are no longer an option. Gummies not only help my pain, but help my attitude to be more positive and uplifting.
We must find our own ways of relieving pain. We are left on our own, no support from our drs or pain specialists. After 2 unsuccessful nerve block procedures from a damaged nerve from lung surgery from lung cancer,I was told there were no other options. I am no stranger to chronic pain.,but I felt adrift and alone with my pain. I am so glad I have gummied!
Holly

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@carolynmcn

Can you please explain your statement? I don’t use it, but I have considered it. Do you have peer reviewed articles to support this? I would never smoke it. But have considered gummies or whatever form it comes in.
Thank you. Carolyn

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This is John's wife replying as he has vision problems also. Like so many others he has tried a multitude of things for his his back pain. He has also tried gummies,patches,tinctures,balms .
None of these have worked for him, but we know a few people who it has worked for. The store where we go is very knowledgeable. You don't necessarily get high. The next step for him is to vape, but we are waiting to try that. It you are in chronic pain, you will try anything.

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@bren928

Like their web article says: “… there isn’t enough research yet…”
Need I say more?

There are a lot of questionable statements even in the Cleveland Clinic information.

More than trivial, they couldn’t seem to get the spelling right in their title. When I studied psychology & was taught how to thoroughly vet credible research sources, little clues like misspellings were considered suspect. If authorities can’t communicate accurately in their own language, it renders their opinions questionable.

Yes, the jury is still out officially, but perhaps it wouldn’t be if only credible research was published, the public was discerning enough to know that research has been limited for many reasons, including greed of big pharma companies & a war on drugs which was more accurately framed as a war of people of color & indigenous people. So basically, the lack of research is about control.

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Have to first evaluate the source of the document. Cleveland Clinic is one of the world's leading sources for medical research This was provided as a starting point. I was not about to completely research the topic for you. If you take the time you will find more conclusive studies on the side effects of the Weed.

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@kenc

Have to first evaluate the source of the document. Cleveland Clinic is one of the world's leading sources for medical research This was provided as a starting point. I was not about to completely research the topic for you. If you take the time you will find more conclusive studies on the side effects of the Weed.

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My point was only that a source of original research isn’t a substitute for doing original research for oneself, as sources aren’t always updated with the most recent data. I wasn’t looking for anyone to do the research for me, rather I was encouraging individuals to do independent research to get the most up to date scientific studies that would ideally corroborate or, at least, evaluate the accuracy of original source material.

Mayo Clinic is my personal choice (over Cleveland) because I’ve seen mistakes of omission in research & inaccurate conclusions by Cleveland, likely due to the problem of maintaining accurate up to date information in a long prohibited area of research.

Also, regarding the original question, I have experience collaborating on studies on the efficacy of medical marijuana vs CBD-A vs CBD for pain relief.

I’ve experienced the greatest success with a combination of CBD-A & CBD for treating my own pain issues. I combine them with Sunflower Liquid Lecithin & go slightly higher on the amount of CBD I use because of my pain threshold. My pain issues are from a fractured femur in early 2014 & have worsened as the copious amount of chemical anesthesia administered to me for the surgery has gradually worn off.

For information purposes, I don’t recommend Dilaudid for any reason. It’s not personal - rather it’s because of what it is (laboratory chemicals manufactured at a low cost), why it’s used to replace morphine (cost effective because of end user cost), the reason it’s used (greed), & the cost in terms of quality of life. In my case, the anesthesiologist lacked knowledge that Dilaudid was not intended to be administered as a 1:1 substitute for morphine.

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@cekkk

We have 2 very nice dispensaries in our town. Our grocery stores should be so bright and clean, and staffs should be so courteous and knowledgeable. Unfortunately.
It does nothing for me, and I mean nothing. I don't get high and I get no relief. My first try was 3 or 4 years ago when I was 77, and the clerk suggested a reliable cigarette.If I may use that terminology and it did nothing no matter how much I inhaled it, which was two or three times what she had suggested. I then tried chocolates and got no feelings at all from them. More recently I got something That looked a bit like a ballpoint pen and I was to click out a serving. Again mullible servings did nothing. Maybe you could suggest Adosage, as well as a dosage of just what. I'm afraid the clerks are being too "gentle" with me. Thx

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In shopping for weed, check the THC content on the label. Any THC content less than 40% is useless for pain relief.
Most buds sold in the stores are quite weak, ranging around 20%.
The following tip on my preferred strain may be unhelpful to you, as I believe that the hundreds of growers tend to make up their own particular strain names. I buy a strain of bud called " Alien Rock Candy." It has 40.2 THC, and it works like magic on my pain. I even get a pleasant relaxing buzz from it. And, of course, my music becomes cosmic. Then I fall asleep after several hours!

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@willbt

In shopping for weed, check the THC content on the label. Any THC content less than 40% is useless for pain relief.
Most buds sold in the stores are quite weak, ranging around 20%.
The following tip on my preferred strain may be unhelpful to you, as I believe that the hundreds of growers tend to make up their own particular strain names. I buy a strain of bud called " Alien Rock Candy." It has 40.2 THC, and it works like magic on my pain. I even get a pleasant relaxing buzz from it. And, of course, my music becomes cosmic. Then I fall asleep after several hours!

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Hi Willbt,
Where do you get 40% THC? Have never found anything that high a percent when I am in Colorado....(but, I have to use gummies rather than smoke).
Thanks!
Holly

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@samiam1949

Hi Willbt,
Where do you get 40% THC? Have never found anything that high a percent when I am in Colorado....(but, I have to use gummies rather than smoke).
Thanks!
Holly

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Gummies are about as potent as dime-store candy, sad to say.
Equally sad, in the bud market, 40% THC or higher is hard to find. I guess I just got lucky finding "Rock Candy," which my dispensary here in Calgary, Alberta, always has in stock. I have seen a few strains come in in the high forties, but at the time I wasn't yet wise to the game.
Even so.....none of the commercial, legal pot strains grown these days come anywhere close in freakout power to the mind-blowing weed I and my adolescent friends toked in the Sixties. Now THAT weed was The Real Thing! (But illegal.)

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I tried cannabis tincture, sticky oil with some Thc and capsules as prescribed by a doctor specializing in cannabis dosing. I had no relief of arthritic pain and refused to inhale the drug. I do put Cannabis ointment on my hands with some relief. I have been on Gabapentin for years for neck pain with partial relief. I had high hopes for the new drug, Journavx , but at $15.50 a pill twice a day, it will be too expensive for chronic pain

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@willbt

Gummies are about as potent as dime-store candy, sad to say.
Equally sad, in the bud market, 40% THC or higher is hard to find. I guess I just got lucky finding "Rock Candy," which my dispensary here in Calgary, Alberta, always has in stock. I have seen a few strains come in in the high forties, but at the time I wasn't yet wise to the game.
Even so.....none of the commercial, legal pot strains grown these days come anywhere close in freakout power to the mind-blowing weed I and my adolescent friends toked in the Sixties. Now THAT weed was The Real Thing! (But illegal.)

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I have had grass that great but years ago. I can no longer smoke or vape.
Covid did a number on my lungs in 2022 and I had to move from 8900 feet to lower altitude so I could breath without 4 liters of oxygen.
And, I am recovering from recent lung cancer. It left me with that damaged nerve. Also have neck pain from disc degeneration after having a double fusion. It's always something, right?
It is just sad that gummies lack the strength necessary to make a difference. But,I am happy for you that you have found something that helps.

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Hi Samiam1949,
My heart goes out to you, living with so much pain. I am always surprised to hear about severe health problems after Covid. It seems to me that authorities failed to educate the public thoroughly about the seriousness of Covid. I am sorry for your awful experience with it.
I have observed that people who have no such suffering just don't _get it_ when meeting a chronic pain patient. _Even the nicest people_ sometimes can't seem to really understand that we are often serving a life sentence trapped in our pain. Even spouses sometimes are out of touch with a partner's pain. My own dearly beloved often accuses me of being dramatic! I've quit talking about my pain at home. I might as well talk to a brick wall about it.
You, too, remember really powerful weed in your youth! I wonder where those strains came from. Are we possibly making up exaggerated memories?
Yes, it's too bad about gummies. I think when weed began to be legalized all over North America producers and advertisers made gummies sound easy to take and magical on pain.

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