Thanks for that. I'm having to look for a new surgeon though because the guy I had who did my first laminotomy obviously failed to correct the whole problem and also his nurse practitioner is very nasty so I don't want to have to deal with her again. I was just going to ask people on this chat how many people ask a surgeon in an interview for other patients outcomes. They can always say HIPAA won't let them give out any information but I thought I read somewhere that you could always ask to speak to another patient who had a good surgery with them or my dreaming that up? It's hard to tell with the reviews because the guy I went to had stellar reviews but apparently it didn't work out so well with me. I'm thinking of calling the Cleveland clinic. The Mayo clinic has a lot of waiting time and they rejected my case the first time without telling me why. I could try them again but it'll be probably at least a month or more before they give me an answer.