Looking ahead after Tymlos: Reclast, Evenity or HRT?

Posted by psmnonna @psmnonna, May 29, 2024

Sorry this may be a bit long, but here is some backstory:

I am on month 5 of 24 of Tymlos. I'm not loving it much, but tolerating it so far. Side effects of rapid heart rate and sometimes shoulder, chest or back pain for about 30-45 mins following injection. Doc said not to worry, so ignoring it for now. Anyone know of damage to the heart from chemically induced rapid heart rate daily over a 2 yr period? I work out, run, bike, walk, hike, yoga and do weights. As I have for over 40 years. Along with healthy mostly veggie diet, fresh veggies, fresh fruit, high protein from nuts, beans, tofu, etc. My calcium intake easily surpasses the 1200mg daily recommendation so I take no extra calcium other than what is in my daily multivitamin. For about 3 years I've added a D3, K2 as MK-7, magnesium and fish oil. Where the osteoporosis came from is anyone's guess. No family history, and at 66 I am younger than both of my sisters who are 72 and 77 with no osteoporosis. Mom passed at 93 with only 2 years of Reclast before that as she had no osteo either, just osteopenia.....but she was in her 90s before she started. So here I am young, active and healthy (I like to think, anyway) with a spine Dexa of -3.6. Since I already do everything that is recommended and have for years before my diagnosis I decided to go the drug route, which makes me cringe. But seeing as my lifestyle didn't prevent a low dexa score I saw few alternatives.

My main question for those of you out there in the know is where do I go after my 2 years of Tymlos?
~I have recently seen some things about HRT for people over 10 years past menopause. Apparently new research points to this being an OK alternative since past studies were not correct?? So basically a whole generation told that HRT was dangerous and caused increased risk of stroke and heart attack was incorrect (which is why I never started it)? But does that mean that it would be OK to start HRT at 68, the age I will be after Tymlos?
~Evenity....is this similar to HRT?
~Reclast...am I correct in thinking that this is a super-sized yearly dose of a bisphosphonate? What does this do to osteonecrosis of the jaw and spontaneous femur fractures over time? How many years can you take it and if it has a limitation, then what?
Thanks for any and all insights. 🙂

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@kaa1

I too concerned about Reckast, possible debilitating side effects including osteonecrosis of the jaw. I am on Tymlos for nine months. My forearm bone density has decreased significantly. This worries me. Dr. McCormick suggested Reclast. I’m fearful of this medication. Wondering what my other options are. Any suggestions from our knowledgeable group members most appreciated! Thank you.

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I had 3 years of Reclast in my 50's and 2 years in my middle 60's. I am now in my early 70's. I didn't have any side effects.

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@kaa1

I too concerned about Reckast, possible debilitating side effects including osteonecrosis of the jaw. I am on Tymlos for nine months. My forearm bone density has decreased significantly. This worries me. Dr. McCormick suggested Reclast. I’m fearful of this medication. Wondering what my other options are. Any suggestions from our knowledgeable group members most appreciated! Thank you.

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I had a root canal done while on Reclast. No problem.

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@kaa1

Thank you for taking the time to reach out and share your knowledge. I had a DEXA eight months after starting Tymlos and my lumbar improved significantly, from -3.9 to the -3.1. That’s great news. L hip from -3.0 to -2.9. The R hip, L and R femur all stayed the same, in the -2.3 to -2.4 range. The forearm however, which I’ve never tested before, came in at a whopping -4.8. I don’t have a prior number on that because they never tested it before but I’m assuming that this is a decrease. This scares me because it will potentially get worse the longer I stay on the Tymlos, and even though we’re more concerned about breaking a hip and thigh, I really don’t want to break my forearm either. I spoke with McCormick who said that the forearm bone will not grow back. He said because my numbers are actually pretty good, I could cut my losses, preserve my forearm and switch to Reclast. I’m worried about the Reclast and some of the other meds because of the potential jaw necrosis. They say “don’t get a tooth pulled while you’re on it” but how can you avoid that if it’s needed? Wait a year? And some of the side effects of Reclast sounds horrible. I know that it’s uncommon but what if I’m one of the small percentages? All of the options are frightening honestly and it’s hard to make a decision. My endocrinologist basically disregarded my forearm concern. “Do some wrist exercises and continue on Tymlos”, she said. Sorry about the long-winded message. I don’t hear many people talking about the forearm concern. This seems like a big one to me. Am I missing something? Thank you 🙏🏻

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@kaa1, I understand your concern. I have broken my elbow, wrist, hand, foot and ankle twice. These bones are mostly cortical. The anabolics help mostly trabecular bones, such as the spine. I was on a half dose of Tymlos for 10 months and am now on a full dose of Forteo. I have improvement in my spine which is wonderful, but no improvement in my hips. They wouldn't test my forearm, but I'm sure with the kinds of breaks I've had, it probably isn't good. I have seen 3 endocrinologists and all want me to stay on Forteo. (I couldn't tolerate any more than a half dose of Tymlos). I figure that 60mcg of Tymlos may be equal to a full dose of Forteo. It appears that no one really knows the comparison though. I will take the Forteo for 6 months and have a 3rd REMS Echolight and possibly another DEXA scan. Someone on this site wrote that Medicare will cover a DEXA once a year if you are on osteoporosis medication. I have had to pay cash for the REMS so far.

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@drsuefowler

@kaa1, I understand your concern. I have broken my elbow, wrist, hand, foot and ankle twice. These bones are mostly cortical. The anabolics help mostly trabecular bones, such as the spine. I was on a half dose of Tymlos for 10 months and am now on a full dose of Forteo. I have improvement in my spine which is wonderful, but no improvement in my hips. They wouldn't test my forearm, but I'm sure with the kinds of breaks I've had, it probably isn't good. I have seen 3 endocrinologists and all want me to stay on Forteo. (I couldn't tolerate any more than a half dose of Tymlos). I figure that 60mcg of Tymlos may be equal to a full dose of Forteo. It appears that no one really knows the comparison though. I will take the Forteo for 6 months and have a 3rd REMS Echolight and possibly another DEXA scan. Someone on this site wrote that Medicare will cover a DEXA once a year if you are on osteoporosis medication. I have had to pay cash for the REMS so far.

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"Someone on this site wrote that Medicare will cover a DEXA once a year if you are on osteoporosis medication"

That was me, and it's that Medicare will cover *more* than one DEXA a year if you're on osteoporosis medication. Even the facility I went to double-checked it, because at first the technician said "you were last here just under a year ago, this isn't covered." Then she checked with the staff who confirmed that it's covered because I've been on meds.

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@njx58

"Someone on this site wrote that Medicare will cover a DEXA once a year if you are on osteoporosis medication"

That was me, and it's that Medicare will cover *more* than one DEXA a year if you're on osteoporosis medication. Even the facility I went to double-checked it, because at first the technician said "you were last here just under a year ago, this isn't covered." Then she checked with the staff who confirmed that it's covered because I've been on meds.

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Thanks njx58. Actually, I paid cash for a second DEXA 6 months after I had one, while I was on Tymlos. I will have to check this out with my insurance.

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I am almost at the two year mark and my insurance will pay for an early DEXA because I am on medication, with MD documentation of medical need.

@drsuefowler I had a 9% gain in my hips on Tymlos. It is always possible that arthritis affected it, I suppose-?

My fractures are all in the spine. That is a lot of other types of fractures and I hope they have healed well with meds.

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