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I have received the results of my fourth BTM blood test done in Dec 2024 after 50 weeks of Alendronate following cessation of Prolia; and my DEXA done in early Jan 2025, 13 months after my previous DEXA in Dec 2023. It's not all good news.

To recap - I did 3 half-yearly Prolia injections in Jul 2022, Jan 2023 and July 2023 and started on Alendronate at end-Dec 2023. My first BTM was in early Mar 2024, my second BTM was in end-May and my third was in Sep after 10, 22 and 36 weeks of Alendronate, respectively. I do not have any baseline BTM numbers. As per my opening post, I am sharing my BTM results in case it proves useful to anyone else monitoring their own exit from Prolia

[CTX]
CTX < 50 pg/mL (Sep: 54; May: < 50; Mar: 51)[range 171-970]
iPTH 4.9 pmol/L (Sep: 4.4; May: 3.2; Mar: 3.5)[range 1.6-6.9]
Calcium (corrected) 8.7 mg/dL (Sep: 9.1; May: 8.7; Mar: 8.3)[range 8.8-10.2]
Albumin 4.3 g/dL (Sep: 3.9; May: 4.1; Mar: 4.1)[range 3.5-5.0]

My CTX remains low and back to the mysterious, numberless '< 50' ! Calcium can afford to go up from its bottom of the range level.

[DEXA]
My TScores from my DEXA scan in Jan 2025 (Dec 2023 numbers in brackets):

Lumbar Spine -0.8 (Dec23:-1.1)
Femoral Neck -2.4 (Dec23:-2.6)
Total Hip -2.5 (Dec23:-2.6)

All DEXA scores have shown slight improvements over the past 13 months with lumbar spine falling below -1.

Now for the bad news.

[SPINAL SCAN]
I took the opportunity to also do a spinal xray scan and the results came back with a "Mild T12 compression fracture"! Was quite shocked and disappointed.

Some questions immediately pop into mind:

1) Having never done a spinal scan before, I don't know if this is an old or new fracture. But, as fractures should heal over a few months, perhaps it is not an old fracture?

2) If it is a recent fracture, could it be caused by the dreaded Prolia Rebound? But my CTX has remained very low throughout the post-Prolia period. And my lumbar BMD numbers are ok. What do others think?

3) I have read that fractures cause CTX to rise, sometimes dramatically. But my CTX has remained low throughout the past 13 months. Is this odd?

4) Should i cut short my post-Prolia relay period to allow CTX to rise to assist in healing?

5) Other than being careful and not aggravating the fracture, what else can I do to assist the healing? Are exercises and/or stretching recommended?

My aim is to cease all anti-resorptives as soon as possible. My original plan was to cease my weekly Alendronate at end-Dec 2024; move to fortnightly Alendronate for 6 months, followed by monthly Alendronate for another 6 months before stopping Alendronate altogether at end-Dec 2025. But, given my continued low CTX, I was planning on being more aggressive and do instead, 3 months biweekly, 3 months triweekly and 3 months monthly and cease by end-Sep 2025. Now, with the fracture, it might be better to shorten it even more.

I will continue to rely on timely BTM tests to alert me to any possible rebound effect

Any insight or comments on the above numbers, questions and/or plan of action is very welcome

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I believe that Keith McCormick said that a CTX under 100 is actually too low, and that micro fractures don't heal with that level of turnover. Maybe someone else can confirm. My CTX was 145 which my endo said showed sufficient suppression of resorption. Is it possible that you have too much suppression of turnover? Can you ask your doctor what the optimal CTX would be in your situation?

Your spine DEXA is excellent so the "mild fracture" is strange. Can you get it checked out further, with an MRI? I have no idea if that would be useful.

Prolia itself can cause fractures due to the suppression of turnover, usually after many years, and we are told that the risk is for atypical femur fracture and jaw necrosis.

Can you ask your doctor if the rise in fracture risk with Prolia rebound is independent of the CTX? Or if Prolia itself can cause fractures?

Hoping it is an x-ray artifact! Your DEXA for spine is so good.....

Hi @formisc I've been following your thread all along and was amazed by your thorough planning and precise execution/monitoring. To me, you are doing a great job! My 2cents regarding your question 3): if your fracture is recent, maximal ctx increase caused by a vertebral compression fracture would be by about 50% on average during a very short window, according to a bone marker kinetic study for vcfs, see the graph Fig 1b in the link:
https://josr-online.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13018-018-1025-5/figures/1. This brief increase might be hard to capture, and even if you "know" the timing of the increase, the change could be easily masked by alendronate. If a radiologist could determine from your xray whether or not your fracture is old/new, then you'll have more assurance in deciding path forward. For the timebeing, will you monitor bone markers more frequently now that you've been on a reduced dosing of alendronate? The number 280 for CTX is mentioned in literature for prolia cessation.

Since bioavailability of alendronate is very low and varies among individuals, it could be possible that you are just a high absorber hence your ctx stayed very low. But again without baseline btms it's really hard to know for sure.

According to this review paper, you are doing great (dxa stable, ctx low), except needing to figure out the very low ctx and the 'mystery' mild vcf - a hiccup in your journey:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S8756328223000972 . Hope you pass the hurdle in no time.