Hereditary Neuropathy with liability to pressure palsies
My 16 year old grandson got this diagnosis. He was told he could no longer play baseball, and that his symptoms could go away and return. He has had symptoms since August 2024. He falls and is weak.
Does anyone know anything about this?
His mother has Glioblastoma. Once she finishes her chemo they plan on looking for a doctor with experience with this disease. He was told he is the youngest patient, and there were very few adults in our area with it.
Thank you for reading this and any advice would be appreciated.
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Welcome @fordsy, I can't imagine how difficult it must be for your grandson having to deal with with this condition. @californiazebra has mentioned having hereditary neuropathy with pressure palsies and may have some experience to share with you. I did find some references on the condition if you are trying to learn more about it.
-- Hereditary Neuropathy with Liability to Pressure Palsies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK1392/
-- HNPP: https://www.foundationforpn.org/causes/hnpp/
The second link from the Foundation for Peripheral Neuropathy is a good site for learning more about the different neuropathies and available treatments, including complementary and alternative treatments.
How kind of you to reply. Thanks for your suggestions. We have been very proactive in our study of his mom’s Glioblastoma. We plan on doing the same for him.
Can I first ask how your grandson was diagnosed with HNPP? Did he have a genetic test or how are they sure? My son and I both have HNPP with issues that started in our teens. We have various issues with pain, numbness and muscle weakness that lead to a variety of challenges. HNPP is rare so most doctors including neurologists haven’t heard of it. The muscle weakness mimics Myasthenia Gravis which is why I’m asking about his diagnosis to be sure it isn’t that.
He had the nerve density test (can’t remember the exact name)and blood work. His symptoms started in August, and after his body/nerves didn’t respond correctly during the nerve test, he got the diagnosis in November. The pediatric Neurologist said she didn’t know anything about his issues. The Neurologist who was in charge if nerve test has taken an interest in his case. Neither his parents, grandson, or myself feel we have gotten any answers/direction, other than he said no to baseball. Stairs are especially difficult.
Have you found any supplements or diet to be beneficial?
I am going to study Myasthenia Gravis.
Thank you for your time.
Hi @fordsy
HNPP affects everyone a little differently. My son and I have some similar issues and some different from each other. About 90% of people with HNPP mostly just have numbness and an occasion limb going to sleep and for that reason, when most doctors read about it they think it's no big deal. However, the other 10% of people have severe, life changing issues from HNPP.
Since your grandson mostly seems to be dealing with muscle weakness, let's focus on that. My son and I both find stairs very challenging. I can make it up one or two flights and then my legs just completely stop working. I was told the muscles are no long receiving signals from the nerves.
If I read about myasthenia gravis, it describes the weakness portion of my challenges exactly. MG is caused by an autoimmune disorder that blocks the acetylcholine receptors at the neuromuscular junction preventing muscles from contracting and receiving nerve signals. The neurologist that did my nerve testing was a neuromuscular specialist (HNPP is a slowly progressing neuromuscular disorder) and advised me that HNPP was causing the same issue for me. We were focusing on my swallowing issues at the time. She recommended that I try Mestinon that is used to treat MG. When she explained everything to me, it made perfect sense that it might work. However, I have a lot of other issues including trouble metabolizing meds due to missing liver enzymes and almost every med I try gives me scary or even permanent life-changing side effects so I have a fear of meds based on my history. Mestinon can cause severe diarrhea and that's a deal-breaker for me. I was worried about other side effects as well so I never tried it. My son has never tried it. He has had a lot of bad experiences with neurologists and gave up on them. I do know someone with MG that takes Mestinon and apparently has no major side-effects from it. Also, sometimes side effects (especially GI) are only temporary until your body gets used to the med. So there is the hope for your grandson on the muscle weakness.
Mestinon helps the nerves and muscles communicate and is taken 2-4 times a day as needed. My neurologist wanted me to take it before meals to help with chewing and swallowing Maybe that would work for him and he'll be back to playing baseball and running up stairs. Catcher (squatting) and pitcher (repetitive motion) probably wouldn't be good positions with HNPP. I casually played softball for 3 years in my 20s, but we didn't practice much like a high school or travel ball team would so not much strain or repetition for my muscles.
In answer to your question, supplements and change of diet do not help me. Most supplements give me strong pins and needles all over my body obviously aggravating my HNPP, but that may also have to do with my metabolic issues. Again, everyone has a different experience with HNPP and with any meds.
I was tested for MG and came up negative. It might be worth having your grandson tested, but if they are sure he has HNPP then that causes similar issues so he probably doesn't have both. Please let me know if he tries Mestinon or anything else. Please feel free to message me privately with any specific questions. My son and I have so many issues from HNPP I could write a novel about our experiences that is too much for the public board.
In general, HNPP is aggravated by repetitive motions, stretching, pressure on a nerve (don't cross legs, lean on elbow, etc.) and challenging muscles can result in muscle fatigue. If I read a book or am texting, I have to put a couple pillows in my lap to rest my arms and the book/phone on the pillow. I can't hold them in the air very long at all. It's a demyelinating disorder (loss of myelin, the protective covering over nerves) so nerves can get damaged easily. I've been dealing with HNPP issues for 50 years and my son for 25 years, but we're still living our lives. Prayers for your grandson.
I am so sorry you both are challenged by HNPP plus other issues. I appreciate your sharing all this information. I will share this with my daughter who just said last night she wishes she had someone to communicate with who is dealing with this. I am new to this site. Is there a way to message off here?
I also plan on being tested. I have had the diagnosis of Chronic Peripheral Neuropathy for 30 years.
Thank you again for your thoughtful information.
It sounds as though you may have HNPP too. The mutation can be de novo (new) in the family for someone. I seem to be the first one to have it.
I will send you a private message with my personal email address so we can communicate outside this platform. Once on personal email, I can give you my phone number if you want to chat.
Look for a message on the envelope icon rather than the bell in the top right corner. For some reason I only see that on my computer not my phone.
Thank you.
Upcoming webinar that might be interesting if you have idiopathic or hereditary neuropathy.
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