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@lisalucier

Hi all, There has been a lot of discussion in this thread about tapering off and stopping Effexor and other antidepressants. We sought the input of a Mayo Clinic pharmacist and here what she had to say:

"Most antidepressants should be tapered before discontinuing. Patients should check with their healthcare provider for discontinuation recommendations. Taper directions can depend on the reason for discontinuation, the particular antidepressant being discontinued, the current dose and other patient-specific factors. Abrupt discontinuation of venlafaxine is more likely to cause withdrawal symptoms and relapse than many other antidepressants because of its short half-life. Likewise, strategies for switching between antidepressants require similar consideration from a care provider. Here at Mayo Clinic, we pharmacists work together with physicians to help determine the best strategies for each patient.

Patients may decide to discontinue their antidepressants for a variety of reasons. Some people feel better after taking an antidepressant and may feel they don’t need it anymore. The course of antidepressant therapy varies. Some people have lifelong mood symptoms that can be alleviated with antidepressants. Others may have difficult times in their lives where treatment is required while they work through the situation and/or find other mechanisms to alleviate symptoms. A clinician can help patients determine the appropriate treatment course based on patient history, symptom severity and other patient-specific factors.

Some patients may experience side effects. Management of side effects depends on their severity, expected duration, other options and patient-specific factors. For example, many patients experience stomach upset when starting antidepressants, but this is usually short-lived, and the benefits of continuing treatment usually outweigh the risk of stopping the antidepressant or having the same effects with another anti-depressant.

“Cold turkey” discontinuation of venlafaxine can cause agitation, sweating, fatigue, nausea, restlessness, tremor and relapse of depression. A slow taper is recommended, and tapering may need to be adjusted based on patient-specific factors listed above and for patient response to the taper.

Genetics play a major role in our response to venlafaxine. People with poor 2D6 metabolizer status may not respond to venlafaxine and thus may not be subject to the same withdrawal symptoms as those who were metabolizing the drug properly. Routine genotype testing is not routinely recommended but could explain lack of response to venlafaxine and certain other medications. Mayo Clinic offers this type of pharmacogenetics testing that can be ordered by our providers. For more information see: http://mayoresearch.mayo.edu/center-for-individualized-medicine/

The most important thing to remember is that each patient is different and may respond differently to the same treatment. We have to communicate openly with our healthcare providers to get the most from our medications. Sometimes this entails some trial and error, but it is worth getting the right therapy in the end.

You can read more about Pharmacogenomics in this article https://www.seattletimes.com/life/wellness/depressed-genetics-affect-how-drugs-work/."

Has anyone had genetic testing that altered their treatment plan or improved their condition?

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Just joined this group in hopes of gaining a better understanding of effexor withdrawal and tips for coping. I am at day 10 of going cold turkey. I was taking effexor xr 150 daily and had been taking for 6 years. Completely understand cold turkey is not recommended however, for financial reasons I did not have any other option. I was taking this drug for anxiety and PTSD. The deep bone and muscle aches have subsided considerably but, the ringing in my ears, sweating and having my emotions on the surface are horrible. I'm looking for suggestions on what I can do to decrease these side affects.

I am new to commenting on this site and tomorrow I have an appointment with my GP and hope to go off of Effexor XR 150 mg. I have been on Effexor for 15 years so I am really afraid of starting to taper down. I have GAD and my anxiety and depression seem to be getting worse the older I become, but I don't want to be on this medication for financial reasons and I don't want to be on a medication that is so severe if you suddenly don't have access to it. I have experienced the withdrawal a few times when I didn't get my refill in time (kicks in after 2 days) and it is severe. So, I am worried. I have read about the individual treatment program recently in an article, and am wondering if it would be more helpful because I also am taking PPI for Barretts Esophagus, and have been told my system has trouble absorbing certain vitamins, so I am not sure what effect the PPI is having with the Effexor being on it and going off of it.

HI, @clearview3. Glad you are posting and sharing about your situation as you hope to taper down off the Effexor XR 150. As you are looking at an individual treatment program for this, as well as wondering about the issue of your system's vitamin absorption and any interaction with the PPI for Barrett's Esophagus, three members on Connect who may have some insights for you come to mind: @kdubois, @johnbishop and @oldkarl. Hoping you can all meet up here in this discussion.

Would you be willing to share more about the individual treatment program you are considering for this taper off the Effexor?

Hi @cleaview3, I would like to add my welcome to Connect along with @lisalucier and other members. I've never taken Effexor XR 150 but from what I understand you can't just stop taking it and when you taper the dose to start getting off of the drug it's baby steps and slow wins the race from what others have said. I would definitely discuss it with your doctor and come up with a plan to taper off.

I did find some information on the PPI for Barrett's Esophagus on the National Institutes of Health site here...
-- Proton Pump Inhibitors: The Culprit for Barrett’s Esophagus?: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4288325/

Hope this helps,
John

This response is 3 years after the initial question "Has anyone had genetic testing that altered their treatment plan or improved their condition?" but the answer is 'yes, I have'. If it is still of interest I can give more details.