Truth about Total Knee Replacements

Posted by rickraleigh @rickraleigh, Jul 31, 2021

Your new knee will never feel as good as your original old one

For most people it takes a full year to get most of the benefits of the surgery

Many people experience a clicking sound when walking for years or forever after the surgery

You should do physical therapy for a year after the surgery to get the best range of motion results even though your therapist will discharge you after several months.

There are no studies which will tell you what activities you can do after TKR. Is doubles tennis OK? Golf? What you read online varies. There are no clear answers.

Many surgeons are finished with you after the surgery. If you have issues with the surgery's aftermath, they may not be that helpful.

The scar is big, and no amount of ointment (vitamin E, etc.) will substantially reduce it.

Good news: If you had bad knee problems before the surgery your knee will feel a lot better after the surgery.

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Here's the thing...I think we all have to decide how much 'pain' is adequate before deciding to go ahead with a surgery that will involve cutting of bone (bone 'cutting/sawing' or any type of injury to a bone is considered one of the most painful experiences...) unless there is something to alleviate that pain...and I'm not talking about pain medication, but more so, getting some type of relief of pain through intravenous methods..which they won't do anymore! In 2020, my husband's TKR involved a 'pain pump' intravenously pumping a type of lidocaine directly in to the knee (like the nerve block given before surgery) that lasted about 2 weeks and helped get him through the worst part of the surgery pain...It slowly gave him a numbing of the area and the pain was so much less than what they are making patients go through now! I totally believe that is why his surgery was such a success because he was able to do all of the exercises/stretches, etc, to heal correctly! The procedure works for most, but the $$ must be the reason they decided to stop doing it...and $$ is always the reason for everything...makes me crazy!

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@ouch89

I agree with your assessment 100 percent except for the 2-10% who are dissatisfied. I presently share email with fellow retirees from my former employer who have had TKR. the count is up to 14 now. We all have varies issues and different levels of discomfort but not one is 100% satisfied. Those that originally stated they were satisfied, when surveyed, admitted they had problems. Their original argument was "that at least the pain is less or gone," totally dismissing that now other issues like ROM and stiffness are present.
My personality is such that I have no hesitation asking patients in the Ortho waiting room for a show of hands whether they are satisfied. There were always some that were not. The term "crapshoot" is totally appropriate since not even the Orthopedic can predict the outcome.

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Since not even the Orthopedic Doctor can predict the outcome is the definition of a crapshoot.
Orthopedic science needs to be more transparent. They must develop a test that will predict who is prone to Arthrofibrosis, as excessive scarring appears to be the largest driver of poor outcomes. I was told at HSS (#1 Orthopedic Hospital worldwide) that their researchers are developing such a test. I also read that the Mayo Clinic is working to develop a test.

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We need more truth in the statistics for sure.

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@catheem

I'm sorry to hear that! We all have individual reactions to our pain and to our improvements with one or the other modalities. I just like this 'forum' because I learn and sometimes benefit from one person, and sometimes not...AND my friends who've had TKR gave me a heck of a time about cancelling my TKR, and I finally said, 'I don't have pain anymore! Would you do it if your pain stopped?' That pretty much stopped them from making me feel guilty! BUT I am perfectly aware that anything can change in a heartbeat...at 70 years old, that statement is true for everything! Good luck to you!

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I'm 80 and just canceled my tkr surgery after reading these posts. What knee pain i do have doesn't compare to some of these results. I won't take the chance until there's no doubt.

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@ouch89

Many studies have been made without any conclusive evidence that Glucosamine Chondroitin works. I like you also took Glucosamine Chondroitin for years without any benefits thinking "what the heck, it can't hurt."

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I got suckered into taken this unproven product also. The sad part is that they still promote it.

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@jlhunt1022 I had a TKR at age 81.5 with truly excellent results and a very quick recovery. I think the key factor is to find a surgeon who does robotic surgery. Otherwise you are 100% depending on the surgeons skill which is a crapshoot. Two very useful things during that recovery were having a bed frame that allowed for raising the foot of the bed and having a continuous ice water machine. If you can’t get the mechanical bed, a foam wedge would be a great help. The continuous ice machine can be replaced by a helper who faithfully brings ice for your knee. I wouldn’t hesitate. to get that knee replacement if these factors are in place.

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@catheem

Here's the thing...I think we all have to decide how much 'pain' is adequate before deciding to go ahead with a surgery that will involve cutting of bone (bone 'cutting/sawing' or any type of injury to a bone is considered one of the most painful experiences...) unless there is something to alleviate that pain...and I'm not talking about pain medication, but more so, getting some type of relief of pain through intravenous methods..which they won't do anymore! In 2020, my husband's TKR involved a 'pain pump' intravenously pumping a type of lidocaine directly in to the knee (like the nerve block given before surgery) that lasted about 2 weeks and helped get him through the worst part of the surgery pain...It slowly gave him a numbing of the area and the pain was so much less than what they are making patients go through now! I totally believe that is why his surgery was such a success because he was able to do all of the exercises/stretches, etc, to heal correctly! The procedure works for most, but the $$ must be the reason they decided to stop doing it...and $$ is always the reason for everything...makes me crazy!

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Thank you for all the responses. I have an appointment with the pain specialist on the Thursday the 8th. I will ask about the lidocaine. Thank you for this piece of information. I am hoping to get some relief.

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Just now joining conversation but want to stress the importance of researching the surgeon and the kind of knee you are getting. My first surgeon only presented to me the knee that is ‘custom made to fit my leg’. After the knee was ordered, it took 6 weeks to make. It was then that I wondered if this was going to be a robotic surgery, so I inquired. My question was met with hostility from the surgeon’s staff so I backed off and all was great post-op…until I fell and landed directly on that knee three months later. Went back to surgery with same surgeon who said he just needed to clean out the wound and ‘resurface’ the patella. Could not walk after this 2nd surgery as knee kept dislocating multiple times a day - excruciating! Went back to the surgeon who took an X-ray and told me everything was OK - just needed physical therapy. The very next day the knee gave way while I was in the shower. I fell again and broke my tibia and fibula down at the ankle. The ER doc called my surgeon who said to just send me home and they would fit me in for an appointment in a couple of days. It was then that I switched surgeons. New surgeon said that type of knee was ‘totally inappropriate’ for me and would need to be replaced. He told me that he takes in a ‘whole arsenal’ of components to the OR and builds what is needed for me onsite. He said that once you ordered a custom made knee, when you went to surgery that was the knee that you were going to get - whether it works properly or not. Long story short, my ‘custom’ knee had to be completely removed and replaced with a new knee that was built onsite. Still rehabilitating 6 months later but am grateful every day for the second surgeon who gave me a true custom knee replacement!

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@bunnybear

@jlhunt1022 I had a TKR at age 81.5 with truly excellent results and a very quick recovery. I think the key factor is to find a surgeon who does robotic surgery. Otherwise you are 100% depending on the surgeons skill which is a crapshoot. Two very useful things during that recovery were having a bed frame that allowed for raising the foot of the bed and having a continuous ice water machine. If you can’t get the mechanical bed, a foam wedge would be a great help. The continuous ice machine can be replaced by a helper who faithfully brings ice for your knee. I wouldn’t hesitate. to get that knee replacement if these factors are in place.

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It is very true that you need a good surgeon and stare if the art procedures BUT with the very best, they have no way of knowing how your immune system will respond. Excessive scarring is your immune system in action regardless to the quality of your surgeon. Statistics show that 6-13% (some will offer different percentages but all are close) WILL have excessive scarring which will negatively impact ROM, inflammation and pain levels. This Arthrofibrosis is genetic and there is yet no test avail to forecast one’s likelihood of developing this. Research hospitals are working on this but none yet available.

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@bunnybear

@jlhunt1022 I had a TKR at age 81.5 with truly excellent results and a very quick recovery. I think the key factor is to find a surgeon who does robotic surgery. Otherwise you are 100% depending on the surgeons skill which is a crapshoot. Two very useful things during that recovery were having a bed frame that allowed for raising the foot of the bed and having a continuous ice water machine. If you can’t get the mechanical bed, a foam wedge would be a great help. The continuous ice machine can be replaced by a helper who faithfully brings ice for your knee. I wouldn’t hesitate. to get that knee replacement if these factors are in place.

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Thank you.. that's encouraging. I'm still going to check out alternatives.. and wait hopefully til I'm 81.5!

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