Trimix injection good or bad idea?
59 years old. prostatectomy just over 3 months ago. Take daily 5mg tadalafil or 100mg sildenafil before intercourse . Successful only 2 times without vac pump. I am considering Trimix injections just not sure when or if I should. I would appreciate some insight from men who have used and when they started. No other treatments for cancer needed. Presently cancer free. 0 psa 2 blood test so far. I am thankful for what I have just want the best I can achieve. Thank you for any shared experiences good or bad.
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My assumption [was] that because an engorged penis is a numb penis, the soreness was due to insenitivity during engorgement to abrasion, bending, etc. In any case I definitely experienced soreness in the hours afterward as well as sometimes longer term. I was using a much lower dosage, so I don't think it is dosage dependent, although perhaps a less hard penis translates to less soreness later. I tailored dosage, as I understood to be the goal, to be sufficient for intimacy but not too much extra. I tracked this by noting time to 1/2 engorgement. If time to 1/2 engorgement was greater than 90 minutes, I took ephenedrine and lowered the subsequent dose. If it was under 45 minutes, I increased subsequent dosage.
While it is true alprostadil (I think that's the one of the tri) deteriorates, it's about 20% in 6 months under consistent refrigeration, so that can be adjusted for fairly easily, and good needle and storage hygiene left me with little concern about contamination so I felt comfortable ignoring the compounding pharmacy's "1 month" shelf life.
Ultimately Vacuum erection device (pump) was also helpful, I was finally able to develop tolerance to the PDE5 inhibitors, and my wife objected to the erection without stimulation, as it felt "urgent" and artificial, so we have left the trimix life behind for a softer, but more satisfying approach. (Marginally enough engorgement for some penetration.) I'm thankful trimix was an option and I will use it again if we feel it would be our best option, but I'm okay with where we are now.
A key element for me is that there is no direct correlation (in my case and based on what I read) between engorgement and orgasm, in spite of my many decades of experiential association.
I’ve been there done that, my Dr told me I could go to 50/50 one on each side if necessary. The discomfort outweighs my satisfaction at 77yrs old. I even have problems laying down as it goes limp, it works great standing up. They do have antidote if it stays hard to long. And yes I do have some pain but again if you want that feeling you will need to put up with it. Plus I’m on quad mix. Good luck my friend
Thank you for your response. Keeping the logs as well but not to such detail. Had tried the pump at first after the PR but it had not worked to any satisfaction to either one of us. Perhaps a more medical grade model and accessories may help if we were to try that route again. The current type of Trimix I’m using is one the compounding pharmacy sourced elsewhere as they were out of stock and could not mix their own last time I purchased it from them. As the previous version the side effect were less severe and good results.
Not sure what you mean by #8 vs. #9 interesting to read that one of the meds can be cause discomfort. Will be reaching out to my urologist PE
to discuss the issue as he can direct the compounding pharmacy on the mix for a new batch. Hopefully they will have the meds as the last time they sold me a vial that they had not mixed directly for me. Hopefully the next mix works without the long term side effects.
There are various strengths of Trimix (and Bimix) available. The concentrations of the three ingredients varies among them. My urologist started me on Trimix #8, then moved me to the stronger Trimix #9. I’m still searching for an effective strength without the achiness. https://vitalmenshealth.com/trimix
I do not use a pump (VED) for intimacy, just for muscle conditioning. The protocol is to do repeated vacuum/release cycles for 10-20 minutes. I find the cheapest electric pumps available work fine for this. I bought a manual pump as well, but haven't tried it since the electric (battery powered) pumps work so well. I haven't purchased a "medical grade" pump. I'm not sure how medical grade relates to external pumps ;-). I think it's mainly don't hurt yourself, which I am quite motivated to attend to. The medical grade is about 10x the price.
Contacted my compounding pharmacy regarding the discomfort experienced from the last trimix I had purchased, the pharmacist suggested a lower mix of the Alprostadil. Since the last version had 50 mcg and they offer a version with 25 mcg vs the initial mix that had a 6 mcg that was not as effective. At this point it's all about finding the right trimix formula that delivers the desired results with less side effects. the link to the trimix article was very informative as it allowed me to better communicate with the pharmacist on the formula concentrations, as at least this pharmacy does not use a numbers scheme #8 vs. #9 etc.