@pdxmac yes, it's just so vague, and random. I didn't go to the doctor for the previous leg pain because I didn't think she could/would do anything about a woman late 50s showing up with a sore leg without any injury or swelling or really ANYTHING to diagnose, and really didn't want to be told that I'm getting old and just deal with it. That's why I went the osteopath and massage route. It wasn't until the full blown PMR symptoms started that I saw my doctor. She *thinks* it's PMR and did some blood tests, but I'm hoping the rheumatologist is more helpful when I see her tomorrow.