Thoughts on Strontium?

Posted by psmnonna @psmnonna, Nov 6 7:25pm

I'm on month 11 of Tymlos and although I'm having some side effects that are manageable, I'm getting tired of being tired all the time. I started looking into strontium and now I'm very interested in anyone who has had success/experience with this supplement. How much per day? Does it interact with Tymlos or any other supplements for that matter? What is the best way to add it to your diet? I take a daily vitamin, fish oil, K2, D3 and magnesium. I eat enough calcium per day to not take an extra supplement, also exercise, walk, bike, weight training, yoga, pilates. No fractures. Last dexa score was -3.6 in the spine and in the -1s in hips. Based on the spine my endo said Tymlos was the cure all, be all. I am not due for another dexa until Jan 2025 and that will be a full year of Tymlos, so hoping it is doing something. Thanks one and all for your input!

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@kathleen1314

If you go off calcium your dexa will be worse also.
Rems and TBS with Dexa are proving that strontium helps.

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@kathleen1324,
I am still off Strontium. Since I have too much calcium in my urine, I have been afraid to take it. I thought that since it is so similar to calcium, it could increase my chances of a kidney stone. I know in my own experience that it improved my DEXA scores. There was a study cited on this forum that showed that Strontium helps some. Are you able to cite the research you are referring to or tell us how to find it? Thanks so much for posting about this.

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@kathleen1314

The raloxifene is a synthetic form of hormone which does not match chemically the hormone which is produced in the human body.
Bioidentical hormones used topically match your bodies' chemical hormones.
Also, DHEA supplements or creams or pregnelone supplements work at the adrenal level to up your hormones naturally.
I would not take any hormone with out a good hormone specialist monitoring and the results from a good hormone work up, saliva test or serum base line test.
A compounding pharmacist will have the names of hormone drs in your area with which they work.

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@kathleen1324,
I have been trying to find a doctor who will prescribe estrogen patches for me, but no luck so far. I have not taken the Raloxifene for fear of blood clots. Although my Endo told me that it was safer than estrogen, I'm not sure that I believe him. Thanks for your suggestions. I will check with the compounding pharmacists in my area for a good hormone specialist.

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@drsuefowler

@kathleen1324,
I am still off Strontium. Since I have too much calcium in my urine, I have been afraid to take it. I thought that since it is so similar to calcium, it could increase my chances of a kidney stone. I know in my own experience that it improved my DEXA scores. There was a study cited on this forum that showed that Strontium helps some. Are you able to cite the research you are referring to or tell us how to find it? Thanks so much for posting about this.

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Firstly, strontium has never been tied to kidney stones, but maybe there is a first.
I know that vit k is frequently used to route calcium to the bones rather than the blood. But since I don't know your medical history then I just can't say anything about calcium in your urine. You need a series of tests from an osteoporosis endocrinologist to be sure.
I just was making the point that any time you don't give your body the nutients which it needs to grow bone be it calcium or any other supplement that your bones will lose density. It is not unique to strontium.
I assume that you are referring to the TBS with DEXA research when you ask for research
which I referred to"?
Here is a link to a posting on TBS with DEXA that rates strontium users in the top 3 for density and bone quality.
https://www.inspire.com/groups/bone-health-and-osteoporosis/discussion/tbs-dexa-and-strontium/reply/7712668597918129698/
Here is another posting on a compilation of strontium research and how it works to prevent fractures and improve density and bone quality.
https://www.inspire.com/groups/bone-health-and-osteoporosis/discussion/2020-a-review-of-latest-insights-into-the-mechanism-of-action-by-strontium-/

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@drsuefowler

@kathleen1324,
I have been trying to find a doctor who will prescribe estrogen patches for me, but no luck so far. I have not taken the Raloxifene for fear of blood clots. Although my Endo told me that it was safer than estrogen, I'm not sure that I believe him. Thanks for your suggestions. I will check with the compounding pharmacists in my area for a good hormone specialist.

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I always assume that something that matches chemically what my body makes is always safer.
Sounds like Raloxifene is trying to be both estrogen and progesterone in your body; seems easier and safer to just use a bioidentical estrogen and progesterone. And yes it is always safer to take progesterone with an estrogen.
You can call your local compounding pharmacist and ask for a hormone expert who prescribes topical bioidentical hormones.

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@drsuefowler

@kathleen1324,
I have been trying to find a doctor who will prescribe estrogen patches for me, but no luck so far. I have not taken the Raloxifene for fear of blood clots. Although my Endo told me that it was safer than estrogen, I'm not sure that I believe him. Thanks for your suggestions. I will check with the compounding pharmacists in my area for a good hormone specialist.

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@drsuefowler raloxifene doesn't cause breast cancer. Estrogen has that potential. Is that what your doctor meant or were they referring to cardiovascular effects?

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@windyshores

@drsuefowler raloxifene doesn't cause breast cancer. Estrogen has that potential. Is that what your doctor meant or were they referring to cardiovascular effects?

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We were talking about blood clot risks.

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@kathleen1314

I always assume that something that matches chemically what my body makes is always safer.
Sounds like Raloxifene is trying to be both estrogen and progesterone in your body; seems easier and safer to just use a bioidentical estrogen and progesterone. And yes it is always safer to take progesterone with an estrogen.
You can call your local compounding pharmacist and ask for a hormone expert who prescribes topical bioidentical hormones.

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Thanks @kathleen1413 for your suggestions.

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@jtdesignertbdl which drugs are you referring to that you feel can cause heart attack, stroke or breast cancer? To my knowledge none cause breast cancer or any cancer of any kind. Evenity has a black box warning for cardiovascular risk but in a study comparing it to placebo, there was no difference. When comparing it to alendronate there was a small difference and it is theorized that is because alendronate is slightly protective.

You may have a mild case. For some on this forum the spectre of hip fracture is a lot closer than yours. I hope you can do a consult with Keith McCormick to help with alternatives and if your bones get bad enough, I hope you get accurate information and can get advice from him on meds. Right now I know I have no choice but meds. After 7 spinal fractures I am grateful for them.

I won't get into a debate but if you make statements that medications are dangerous and cause certain diseases, it is helpful if you provide sources.

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