I was first diagnosed in 2001. We caught it very early. Had chemo and radiation followed by 5 years on Tamoxifen. Recurrent cancer (same side) 2018. Had bilateral mastectomies. Took Anastrazole for 5 years. Recently, my doctor offered to ask for BCI (breast cancer index?) testing on my tumor to see if I would benefit from another 5 years on Tamoxifen…and it turns out I would. Who knew they kept our little tumors frozen in a vault somewhere for ? years?! We caught mine early both times…the best of the bad news…but twice.
Sorry to hear you went through this horrific event twice!
But super happy to know caught early both times.
How often were you being scanned at that point?
I'm 64 and was diagnosed with left breast invasive ductal carcinoma (ER+ HER2-) in Sept. 2020. It was caught early. Decided on bilateral mastectomy (personal choice and not something my breast specialist suggested). 23 lymph nodes removed with 3 showing cancer. I had 6 weeks of radiation but no chemo since Mammaprint showed no benefit from it. Started taking Letrozole (aromatase inhibitor) and took it for 3 years with regular 6 month exams from breast surgeon and oncologist. Labs were monitored and my markers never changed. In July 2023 I started experiencing some lower back pain. PCP prescribed steroids and muscle relaxers, along with stretching, thinking that I had probably pulled something in my lower back. Just happened to have one of my regular visits scheduled in August to see my breast specialist and she suggested having some scans run just to be safe. Scans came back kind of questionable so she scheduled a PET scan. Turns out my breast cancer had metastasized to my bones and was especially present in my spine. The PET scan showed a kind of shotgun effect with most bones in my body being affected to some degree. Started new treatment plan in October after conferring with my oncologist and getting a 2nd opinion at MD Anderson. That treatment plan consisted of Verzenio 150 mg with 2 injections of Fulvestrant (estrogen receptor antagonist) and one injection of Xgeva (bone builder) once a month following the initial 3 bi-weekly injections during the load-up period. Had a few side effects with the worst being diarrhea. It became chronic and eventually caused ulcerative colitis. Even though the treatment plan was working well and had stopped the cancer from advancing I had to stop the Verzenio after almost 8 months and start taking anti-inflammatory/steroid meds for my UC. During that time I had labs and injections every month, PET scans every 3 months and opted in for 2 kyphoplasty procedures to help reduce the pain in my spine, both lumbar and thoracic regions. Had issues with insurance authorizing new medication (Ibrance) so I just started taking Kisqali last week after being off Verzenio for 5weeks. Verzenio, Ibrance & Kisqali are all CDK4/6 inhibitors so the Kisqali should continue to work, but the side effects are a little different as is the dosage requirement. All that being said, I feel better than I did 7-8 months ago and the pain I have is tolerable on the days that it bothers me. I pray the Kisqali will continue to do the job that the Verzenio did (and without diarrhea), but only time will tell - next PET scan will be in October. With all that being said, YES, breast cancer can metastasize even while on aromatase inhibitors. Make sure your care team uses scans in addition to lab work and physical exams as often as they will allow. My care team told me that wasn't necessary and that the cancer markers in my blood would be the tell-tale sign of advancement. Didn't happen that way and I ended up with stage IV breast cancer. I moved all my care and treatments to MD Anderson and I travel 4 hours to get there. Yes, it's inconvenient, but I feel I'm in much better hands than I was initially. Educate yourself and don't ignore what your body or your mind tells you. Despite all the negatives, there are many treatment plans that can work. Everyone's situation is unique. I hope your cancer journey is the best it can be and you find the care you need! Prayers to all!
Happy to hear you are feeling better. We are in such a rough journey.
You said caught early?
You advocate for labs. When did MO start monitoring labs? They have not even started monitoring mine.? 4/12 months on my journey
I'm 64 and was diagnosed with left breast invasive ductal carcinoma (ER+ HER2-) in Sept. 2020. It was caught early. Decided on bilateral mastectomy (personal choice and not something my breast specialist suggested). 23 lymph nodes removed with 3 showing cancer. I had 6 weeks of radiation but no chemo since Mammaprint showed no benefit from it. Started taking Letrozole (aromatase inhibitor) and took it for 3 years with regular 6 month exams from breast surgeon and oncologist. Labs were monitored and my markers never changed. In July 2023 I started experiencing some lower back pain. PCP prescribed steroids and muscle relaxers, along with stretching, thinking that I had probably pulled something in my lower back. Just happened to have one of my regular visits scheduled in August to see my breast specialist and she suggested having some scans run just to be safe. Scans came back kind of questionable so she scheduled a PET scan. Turns out my breast cancer had metastasized to my bones and was especially present in my spine. The PET scan showed a kind of shotgun effect with most bones in my body being affected to some degree. Started new treatment plan in October after conferring with my oncologist and getting a 2nd opinion at MD Anderson. That treatment plan consisted of Verzenio 150 mg with 2 injections of Fulvestrant (estrogen receptor antagonist) and one injection of Xgeva (bone builder) once a month following the initial 3 bi-weekly injections during the load-up period. Had a few side effects with the worst being diarrhea. It became chronic and eventually caused ulcerative colitis. Even though the treatment plan was working well and had stopped the cancer from advancing I had to stop the Verzenio after almost 8 months and start taking anti-inflammatory/steroid meds for my UC. During that time I had labs and injections every month, PET scans every 3 months and opted in for 2 kyphoplasty procedures to help reduce the pain in my spine, both lumbar and thoracic regions. Had issues with insurance authorizing new medication (Ibrance) so I just started taking Kisqali last week after being off Verzenio for 5weeks. Verzenio, Ibrance & Kisqali are all CDK4/6 inhibitors so the Kisqali should continue to work, but the side effects are a little different as is the dosage requirement. All that being said, I feel better than I did 7-8 months ago and the pain I have is tolerable on the days that it bothers me. I pray the Kisqali will continue to do the job that the Verzenio did (and without diarrhea), but only time will tell - next PET scan will be in October. With all that being said, YES, breast cancer can metastasize even while on aromatase inhibitors. Make sure your care team uses scans in addition to lab work and physical exams as often as they will allow. My care team told me that wasn't necessary and that the cancer markers in my blood would be the tell-tale sign of advancement. Didn't happen that way and I ended up with stage IV breast cancer. I moved all my care and treatments to MD Anderson and I travel 4 hours to get there. Yes, it's inconvenient, but I feel I'm in much better hands than I was initially. Educate yourself and don't ignore what your body or your mind tells you. Despite all the negatives, there are many treatment plans that can work. Everyone's situation is unique. I hope your cancer journey is the best it can be and you find the care you need! Prayers to all!
Thanks for all this info, as I'm about to start on a treatment using the combo Verzinio and the Fulvestrant injection. I'm 75. I tried 4.5 months of Letrozole, but ended up with really high spikes of my BP at night. Had to add another BP drug, & dropped the AI. Can I ask how are you doing now, 7 months later? I'm hoping for shrinkage of the tumor so that they can possibly do a Proton radiation treatment. My tumor is in a weird spot, within the chest wall, not in breast tissue, & not easily accessible. I had a mastectomy when I was 43, had chemo, and no recurrence for about 30 years. This new tumor is right under where that old tumor had been, so Doc is calling it a recurrence. So far it hasn't metastasized yet. I'm hoping this new med plan isn't hard on my heart. Thanks again, hope things are going well.
Also concerned with skin staying supple for future reconstruction as I’m basically having a skin resection. This tumor is just between skin and implant.
would love to hear about this as I am deciding between mastectomy or lumpectomy with rad but i currently have implants that could be negatively affected. Not sure what the best option is to get the best look with the least amount of problems
Yes mines came back to my L5 vertebrae just found out in March. I had stage 2 back in 2018 had chemo radiation surgery. On letrozole and kisqali don't know if it's working yet? But I know God's working because I'm still here
would love to hear about this as I am deciding between mastectomy or lumpectomy with rad but i currently have implants that could be negatively affected. Not sure what the best option is to get the best look with the least amount of problems
My body wouldn’t tolerate the breast tissue expanders following my bilateral mastectomy - had to have both removed due to infections, thus implants were not an option. A year after my mastectomy I had the 1st phase of a deep flap reconstruction. Again, more rejection - this time it was the sutures used during my procedure. A year of infections and wound care, pic line and hyperbaric oxygen treatments. At that point I was done with the whole process - tired of incisions and drains and infections. I don’t have the breasts I thought I’d get following the mastectomy. My body didn’t cooperate. I can’t give you advice other than to assess your life and priorities. Make sure you get the best plastic surgeon you can but be aware that even the best can’t predict your outcome. Be prepared to accept whatever that may be. I wish you the very best and pray for remission.
giggilove: This is exactly why I opt to have no implants post bilateral mastectomy.
I am 70 with several serious health issues. I considered risk factors vs. benefits. And my priorities.
"Perhaps" if I was younger, I would go with the implants...but not even sure of that.
I heard of too many terrible rejection stories with the implants. My reasoning was - why put myself in more possible health danger if I don't have to. I have enough on my plate. My husband (of course) said he would support any decision I made. I thought I would be traumatized looking at my flat chest. This never happened.
Once completely healed, I am looking forward to a beautiful tattoo on my chest.
And, yes, even the best surgeon and plastic surgeon do know how your body will respond to foreign objects in your body. I have no regrets at all. I know every woman has to decided what will be the best option for herself, it is not a "one" approach for all.
The very best of health to everyone on their cancer journey. And it is exactly that.
Happy to hear you are feeling better. We are in such a rough journey.
You said caught early?
You advocate for labs. When did MO start monitoring labs? They have not even started monitoring mine.? 4/12 months on my journey
It was on an AI continually for past 5 yrs. I began right after radiation in 2018 started Letrazole then 2020 changed to Anastrozole because of the joint pain. Continued on Anastrozole and July 2023 had Mets to liver while on Anastrozole.
Yes, @hilerlou - please clarify, you have had metastasis to your liver 2 years ago while still taking Anastrozole?
Or do you mean Anastrozole affected your liver?
How are you doing today? What is your "cancer" status?
Thank you.
Sorry to hear you went through this horrific event twice!
But super happy to know caught early both times.
How often were you being scanned at that point?
Happy to hear you are feeling better. We are in such a rough journey.
You said caught early?
You advocate for labs. When did MO start monitoring labs? They have not even started monitoring mine.? 4/12 months on my journey
Thanks for all this info, as I'm about to start on a treatment using the combo Verzinio and the Fulvestrant injection. I'm 75. I tried 4.5 months of Letrozole, but ended up with really high spikes of my BP at night. Had to add another BP drug, & dropped the AI. Can I ask how are you doing now, 7 months later? I'm hoping for shrinkage of the tumor so that they can possibly do a Proton radiation treatment. My tumor is in a weird spot, within the chest wall, not in breast tissue, & not easily accessible. I had a mastectomy when I was 43, had chemo, and no recurrence for about 30 years. This new tumor is right under where that old tumor had been, so Doc is calling it a recurrence. So far it hasn't metastasized yet. I'm hoping this new med plan isn't hard on my heart. Thanks again, hope things are going well.
would love to hear about this as I am deciding between mastectomy or lumpectomy with rad but i currently have implants that could be negatively affected. Not sure what the best option is to get the best look with the least amount of problems
Yes mines came back to my L5 vertebrae just found out in March. I had stage 2 back in 2018 had chemo radiation surgery. On letrozole and kisqali don't know if it's working yet? But I know God's working because I'm still here
My body wouldn’t tolerate the breast tissue expanders following my bilateral mastectomy - had to have both removed due to infections, thus implants were not an option. A year after my mastectomy I had the 1st phase of a deep flap reconstruction. Again, more rejection - this time it was the sutures used during my procedure. A year of infections and wound care, pic line and hyperbaric oxygen treatments. At that point I was done with the whole process - tired of incisions and drains and infections. I don’t have the breasts I thought I’d get following the mastectomy. My body didn’t cooperate. I can’t give you advice other than to assess your life and priorities. Make sure you get the best plastic surgeon you can but be aware that even the best can’t predict your outcome. Be prepared to accept whatever that may be. I wish you the very best and pray for remission.
giggilove: This is exactly why I opt to have no implants post bilateral mastectomy.
I am 70 with several serious health issues. I considered risk factors vs. benefits. And my priorities.
"Perhaps" if I was younger, I would go with the implants...but not even sure of that.
I heard of too many terrible rejection stories with the implants. My reasoning was - why put myself in more possible health danger if I don't have to. I have enough on my plate. My husband (of course) said he would support any decision I made. I thought I would be traumatized looking at my flat chest. This never happened.
Once completely healed, I am looking forward to a beautiful tattoo on my chest.
And, yes, even the best surgeon and plastic surgeon do know how your body will respond to foreign objects in your body. I have no regrets at all. I know every woman has to decided what will be the best option for herself, it is not a "one" approach for all.
The very best of health to everyone on their cancer journey. And it is exactly that.
I was having signatera for recurrence every three months and now new oncologist won't do them. I'm very upset. They say it's not needed for stage 1
Hi there, what do you mean had Mets to liver while on Anastrozole? Does it affect your liver?
Yes, @hilerlou - please clarify, you have had metastasis to your liver 2 years ago while still taking Anastrozole?
Or do you mean Anastrozole affected your liver?
How are you doing today? What is your "cancer" status?
Thank you.