@kb2014 Hello! Unless you may have posted it & I missed it - could you share what these "7 loops of ptsd" are, and even any link/s to credible site/s from professionals that address this?

I also wonder about "Complex PTSD", in the case of my sibling & I and growing up - and responding to & developing very differently in - a narcissistic (& probably more diagnoses would apply) family.

And, to tie in more specifically to the headline of this thread, setting boundaries was far from what was ever modelled in our family, AND if you did so (& I tried several times in very difficult and what became - for me - highly emotional "discussions") you were responded to, by the "head narcissist" (father) with: "How dare you? After all I've done for you?!" Similar responses from head narcissist's spouse (our mother) when I tried to have an "adult" discussion about a life situation I was trying to deal with: you were "scoffed at", treatly dismissively, sarcastically, and basically shut down. This happened throughout our lives, again, if I even dared to tread these waters. My sibling didn't even try, in fact, as I am recently learning in our new joint therapy sessions, she felt it was her "duty" to make everyone happy, calm the waters, with her "don't rock the boat" mentality. Further, though I haven't pointed it out to her, this position that she took had the impact of isolating me from her, and thus, for other reasons I know, has impeded our developing any kind of supportive sibling relationship. Maybe it isn't too late. Will see.

I know this could also fit under the narcissist topic created earlier (this year?), but boundary-setting applies in many settings and circumstances.

And, except for connecting here on Mayo Clinic Connect, I generally avoid social media (not that I think of MCC as social media, but I think you may follow what I mean here...)

Warm wishes. Everyone deserves and should feel they have control over their person, their personal space, and what they are subjected to.