Liver biopsy damage as seen on CT scan?

Posted by wpprescott @wpprescott, Aug 11 11:40am

Greetings:

Bear with me; I need to provide some background before asking my question…

In September 2023, after 8 rounds of neoadjuvant chemotherapy (Folrifinox), I was scheduled for Whipple Surgery to remove a small cancerous tumor in the head of my pancreas. When my surgeon (Dr. Kuntsman at Yale/Smilow) started the surgery with exploratory laparoscopy he found three small lesions on my liver that were quickly biopsied and the frozen sections showed malignancy. Whipple was aborted and I immediately became a Stage IV case.

Follow-up testing of the biopsies post-surgery were inconclusive for cancer due to insufficient sample size. I have had a half dozen CT scans, 2 MRIs, and a PET scan since then and no metastases have been seen. I have always been a CEA and CA 19-9 “non-producer”. Last tests on 7/31/24 were 2.0 for CEA and 9 for CA 19-9.

After another 14 rounds of Folfirinox, in mid-May my oncologist at Yale (Dr. Lacy) paused chemo. All signs were any cancer was “dead” and/or scar tissue. Dr. Kuntsman agreed to re-evaluate me for possible Whipple surgery. He performed exploratory laparoscopy as the first step on 7/1/24. Biopsies of the areas where the original lesions were found, two wedge biopsies of segments 3 and 8 of my liver, and a peritoneal wash all showed no evidence of malignancy. Seemed like a home run at the time! I was re-scheduled for Whipple this coming Tuesday, 8/13 and only had one final check to pass which was a CT scan on 7/29/24 to get a baseline for post-surgery monitoring. And you guessed it…the scan showed two questionable areas on my liver. To quote the scan report:

“New 2 cm hypodense lesion left hepatic lobe on series 4 image 18, in keeping with metastasis. There is also a new perihepatic metastasis abutting the right hepatic lobe anterior segment on series 4 image 19.”

Dr. Kuntsman feels there is the possibility these two “spots” may be damage or inflammation from the ex-lap biopsies on 7/1. As he put it “I took pretty big chunks out of your liver.” But due to the need for great caution, surgery was canceled for Tuesday, I will have another scan (MRI) on 9/4 to see if there is any change, and hopefully he is right and I can still have surgery soon. But I am obviously a little confused and concerned that in spite of all the positive checks and data over the last year, somehow this is new cancer out of seemingly nowhere.

Finally, my question: has anyone else had wedge biopsies that have looked like metastatic activity on a CT scan, but turned out to be biopsy damage? Any other observations or informed opinions to share would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Wayne

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Hm. “Chunks” are not needed for biopsies. In fact, they are us usually done laperoscopically so inflammation afterwards should be minimal once several weeks have passed. I would have sent these scans to another qualified pancreatic surgeon for review.

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@gamaryanne He took wedge biopsies which are larger in size intentionally, the theory being bigger sample size, better chance of seeing what is going on. According to the surgery notes, they were about 1.5 cm deep! This was not a standard needle biopsy.

I have been working all along with both the Mayo Clinic (Dr. Carr) and Froedtert/MCW (Dr. Chen and Dr. Evans) for backup opinions and support. Mayo has already looked at my recent CT scan and agrees with the new metastasis reading. I have an appointment to discuss the situation further with Dr. Carr on Wed. I expect to hear from Froedtert this week as well. But, neither has fully taken into account the recent biopsy situation. They are just comparing to the most recent CT scan they have access to which was back in April.

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Just in case anyone is curious, I'm going to answer my own question to this. It was post-biopsy damage, not new metastases. And before I had my follow-up MRI to confirm, my doctors at both Mayo and Froedtert felt there was a good change it was just biopsy-related and they were correct!

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I love that you have Dr Evans in your circle!

While I respect those that write the scan reports, I do not rely on those reports as the Bible on me. A few times scans showed suspicious items but my surgeon was able to nail what it really was-and not always the metastasis that was suggested.

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