Lowering LDL to help bones

Posted by maggie25 @maggie25, Aug 15 12:16pm

I recently consulted with Keith McCormick, DC, (author of the excellent book "Great Bones"), who said I have to get my LDL down. Until reading about it in his book, I had never heard of high cholesterol affecting bones. High cholesterol runs in my family. Since the consultation I have been eating almost only healthy fats and reducing my fat intake overall. For example, I used to eat a fair amount of cheese and crackers and am switching to carrot sticks and hummus or baba ganoush. More fish and chicken and less red meat. It has resulted in a little weight loss but also seems to have eliminated edema at the ankles. I have very thin bones to start with and 5 vertebral fractures. I wonder how long it takes to show a difference in LDL. Has anyone has success reducing cholesterol with diet?

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The way I quickly dropped weight and my cholesterol numbers was when I went on a strict whole foods, low-fat, plant-based diet. Works wonders. Dropping meat and cheese was the best move for me! I have an addiction to things like chips so they also had to go. But worth it!

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@maggie25

Since this is new to me all I’ve really found is hummus and baba ganoush with veggies. But they are likely too high in carbs but still better than with crackers. Otherwise I snack on a few nuts with their healthy fat or chicken sticks (like beef sticks) but both higher fat so not too many. Same with favorite treat of frozen banana blended with nut butter and a splash of plant milk. Other ideas are welcome!

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Today I’m going to try some apple slices with unsweetened peanut butter

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@artemis1886

My doctor is not making me take a statin. I am allergic to over 49 different medications statins, seizure meds and a bunch of other medications. Leqvio by itself dropped mine by over 100 points. I was at 325. I am at 195. I get my second shot in October. I still do not eat red meat or pork.
Wild caught fish the other fish farm raised has antibiotics and hormones just like red meat. Pork is nasty if you know what pigs eat and they can’t sweat so the poison stays in the meats. Pigs are also used in land fills because they will eat anything.

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Excuse me I mistyped I am only allowed wild caught fish and meats that have been grain feed and hormone free.
I do not eat pork. After going through RN school and what we learned about pork is I quit eating it my choice. While one person says great things about pork some of us prefer not to eat it. As was explained to us while in RN school by the dietician (one of our requirements) the toxins build up in the meat and since pigs have thick skin they do not sweat the toxins out so it builds up in the meat. There was a book that we had to read that went more in deepth about pigs. I don’t remember the name it’s in long term storage. This is my preference.
https://electwellness.com/health-fitness-blog/choose-beef-over-pork/#:~:text=Pork%20has%20about%20twice%20the,blood%20and%20increased%20cardiovascular%20risk.

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@artemis1886

Excuse me I mistyped I am only allowed wild caught fish and meats that have been grain feed and hormone free.
I do not eat pork. After going through RN school and what we learned about pork is I quit eating it my choice. While one person says great things about pork some of us prefer not to eat it. As was explained to us while in RN school by the dietician (one of our requirements) the toxins build up in the meat and since pigs have thick skin they do not sweat the toxins out so it builds up in the meat. There was a book that we had to read that went more in deepth about pigs. I don’t remember the name it’s in long term storage. This is my preference.
https://electwellness.com/health-fitness-blog/choose-beef-over-pork/#:~:text=Pork%20has%20about%20twice%20the,blood%20and%20increased%20cardiovascular%20risk.

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@artemis1886 your preference of going no pork makes sense given the information. In the Old Testament pork was forbidden but reading all this I think it was more for a dietary reason which evolved into a religious requirement …?

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Pork has been proven to increase inflammation my neuropathy is caused by autoimmune
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/g41443266/foods-to-avoid-for-arthritis/#

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@willow5

I’ve shared here before - been vegetarian over 30 years and vegan for six years, runner, hiker, off and on weight training, etc. all the right things. Cholesterol runs high in my family. Chose to start taking statins a few years ago. Got a horrible result on the CT calcium score and my AliptoproteinB (another cholesterol test) is high. Oh, well. Glad there are meds and glad I chose to do a cardio workup on my 70th. Good luck!

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I’ve had high cholesterol post menopause I’m 79 years old ad have resisted statins for over 30 years just started on a very low dose. The less medication the better

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The lower the better however I cannot take any statins due to intolerance. Can't even do Repatha but my Np recently send me to cardiology and I can take Praluent and they were able to get it approved. It's a monoclonal antibody. I fought taking then for years and finally at 270 had to do something and this is what finally worked for me. The lower the better to get it down with less side effects.

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I have to let you know that I am also dealing with high bad cholesterol. I have tried taking every statin on the market to help me, but everyone of them made me have the worst muscle cramps and aches that I have ever known. I was finally able to get a genetic test done to see how my body uses these drugs along with others. I would highly recommend this testing if you are having problems with medication. I now see a Pharmacogenic doctor at Mayo. She is amazing. She has helped me learn how I can take medication better and what medications my body will use and tolerate. I would highly recommend this if you can.
I have just seen the most wonderful doctor cardiologist at Mayo that specializes in helping people with high lipid problems. He was so great to explain and teach me of ways to control my cholesterol better. I am now starting to take an all natural way to lower it. It is Bergamot and Plant Sterols capsules. He has great success with this. Along with a strict diet and exercise I am hoping to drop it more in the next few months.

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The use of plant sterols and Bergamot to help lower LDL is a very helpful idea and novel to me. I’m so glad there are doctors willing to work with supplement's as well as traditional medicine and of course diet and exercise. The genetic testing is also a helpful idea. Thank you @gma14fun and everyone who has provided their story and what has and hasn’t worked for them.

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@bayhorse

Loriesco, what is Levqio?

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Lewis is a shot for genetic high cholesterol. I take one shot, three months later a second shot then one every six months. It is ever expensive. My insurance picked up all but 700.00 patient assistance is picking up the rest. My first shot lowered my cholesterol quite a bit. I get my second one in October. My mother and grandmother had high cholesterol.

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