Oatmeal and Dr. Gundry's strong negative effects

Posted by shelleyW @shelleyw, Jul 18 8:50pm

Is Dr. Gundry a scam? I have seen this question asked many times here. I have the same question, but just couldn't find a good answer. Until now: I was watching a Shark Tank episode, an oatmeal snack ball was being offered. They all seemed to like the taste, so I went on the hunt. I have found a AI, that so far has proven truthful and accurate. I tested AI out with questions I already knew the truth about. Well, except for the typical reasons, allergies, bad processing,etc...OATMEAL is the great food our parents, grandparents and now parents and children have thought it is. As for Dr. Gundry, I'm sure he's very smart, but his extreme negative attack, is definitely wrong about oatmeal . I am thrilled to finally get this cleared up for me. I have Celiac disease, so oatmeal cereal and flour are prominent in my diet.

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@baguette

Apparently there is a protein in oatmeal that some people are sensitive to. So that and perhaps cross contamination with gluten from the processing facilities seem to be the only caveats about oats. https://www.healthline.com/health/oat-allergy#TOC_TITLE_HDR_1 I had never heard of anyone warning about oatmeal until reading this post. I didn't do much research but supposedly Grundy's theory is that oatmeal has a lot of a certain type of acid that works against the body absorbing nutrition from other foods.

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I have read on various medical sites that raw oats do contain the anti nutrient, phytic acid, which binds to nutrients like iron and zinc making it difficult for our bodies to absorb them. This can lead to mineral deficiencies over time - but isn’t usually a problem with a well balanced diet overall. Also soaking raw oats overnight reduces phytic acid’s effect on mineral absorption. The alternative is to cook them, which is my preference anyway.

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@isadora2021

I have read on various medical sites that raw oats do contain the anti nutrient, phytic acid, which binds to nutrients like iron and zinc making it difficult for our bodies to absorb them. This can lead to mineral deficiencies over time - but isn’t usually a problem with a well balanced diet overall. Also soaking raw oats overnight reduces phytic acid’s effect on mineral absorption. The alternative is to cook them, which is my preference anyway.

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Isadora2021, this is going to sound like I am the dumbest person on earth... you mention that you prefer to cook your oatmeal....doesn't all oatmeal need to be cooked before eating it? Also, are there any other names that phytic acid has? I didn't know about it until now and I need to learn about it. Thanx Shelley

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@isadora2021

We grew up on cooked rolled oats porridge for breakfast. Made with water, a dash of milk and salt. A small dab of butter melted on top before serving. Having suffered some digestive issues since cancer surgery (including removal of part of my colon as well as my gallbladder), I decided to start having the same porridge again for breakfast. What a difference it has made to my bowel movements! 😊 😊😊 Incredible, thanks to the insoluble fibre. Also a good source of protein, minerals and vitamins.

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Isadora2021, this might be a duplicate reply, the brain fog is SO THICK, I rarely even fight it anymore. Re:oatmeal
I cook raw whole steel cut, verified gluten free, in extra water, a bit of salt, in a very small crock pot, on either warm or low, don't remember, overnight. Then it's ready whenever I want to eat it. I use vanilla protein (liquid, whey protein, sold at Costco) to thin it out, instead of using milk. I don't get enough protein. Between celiac, CIC, almost zero muscle motility in both intestines, my diet is not good cuz I try to eat as little as possible out of sheer terror of knowing what my CIC can and will do to me. You said that oatmeal really helps your bowel movements.... It doesn't help mine at all. Am I doing something wrong with the oatmeal? Thanx, Shelley

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@isadora2021

I have read on various medical sites that raw oats do contain the anti nutrient, phytic acid, which binds to nutrients like iron and zinc making it difficult for our bodies to absorb them. This can lead to mineral deficiencies over time - but isn’t usually a problem with a well balanced diet overall. Also soaking raw oats overnight reduces phytic acid’s effect on mineral absorption. The alternative is to cook them, which is my preference anyway.

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I eat them raw, or put them in a blender and use instead of bread crumbs. Oh well, not the best nutritionally I guess!

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I wouldn’t worry!! You’re probably getting the “lost” nutrients elsewhere in your diet 😊

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@shelleyw

Isadora2021, this might be a duplicate reply, the brain fog is SO THICK, I rarely even fight it anymore. Re:oatmeal
I cook raw whole steel cut, verified gluten free, in extra water, a bit of salt, in a very small crock pot, on either warm or low, don't remember, overnight. Then it's ready whenever I want to eat it. I use vanilla protein (liquid, whey protein, sold at Costco) to thin it out, instead of using milk. I don't get enough protein. Between celiac, CIC, almost zero muscle motility in both intestines, my diet is not good cuz I try to eat as little as possible out of sheer terror of knowing what my CIC can and will do to me. You said that oatmeal really helps your bowel movements.... It doesn't help mine at all. Am I doing something wrong with the oatmeal? Thanx, Shelley

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I’m glad you’re getting the nutrients from oatmeal, just not the bowel movements. I need to drink a lot of water afterwards, but it is amazing for me. I haven’t had to use any laxatives. Good luck 🤞

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@shelleyw

Isadora2021, this is going to sound like I am the dumbest person on earth... you mention that you prefer to cook your oatmeal....doesn't all oatmeal need to be cooked before eating it? Also, are there any other names that phytic acid has? I didn't know about it until now and I need to learn about it. Thanx Shelley

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It’s been quite a “ thing” to eat oats raw soaked in milk overnight in the fridge then with toppings of your choice such as strawberries l, yoghurt and chopped nuts. I’ll occasionally have that when I go out for breakfast but I like mine cooked! I do it in the microwave with a good sized bowl so it doesn’t boil over and make a terrible mess 😊

I just checked a Harvard University article and the only other expression it uses is phylates. It seems they are in whole grains, legumes, seeds and some nuts

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@fortunateoldguy

Gundry makes no sense whatsoever. He’s a charlatan with an MD after his name who peddles supplements to unsuspecting victims. His theories are just that, theories. Theories must be proven by scientific method, and he hasn’t done that. He’s clever to be able to fly under the FDA radar without having his medical license stripped.

He’s a master at taking a small kernel of observational evidence and forming a conclusion that isn’t verifiable as true. His book, The Plant Paradox, has been debunked by many on the internet as being ridiculous. He postures himself as some sort of lone genius and puts himself above his peers. Then he out to make a buck off of his nonsense.

It’s hard to get past the gag factor of his crazy marketing. One must be a critical thinker with this clown.

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I think he’s a hack in it for the money. His YouTube channel makes me want to throw something at the TV.🫢

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While hospilized, I had an internist tell me he thought oatmeal was perhaps the best food there is. So go for it!

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@janpe35

While hospilized, I had an internist tell me he thought oatmeal was perhaps the best food there is. So go for it!

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janpe35,
How on earth can oats/oatmeal be so controversial? I did read, maybe on here, that soaking them overnight is supposed to leach out some of the lectins. I don't know if it does. I have read, a long time ago that lectins were bad for me and my celiac, don't know if that is true either.🤪ShelleyW

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