I reversed osteoporosis without drugs

Posted by sheilad1 @sheilad1, Dec 28, 2022

I had my bone quality test yesterday along with another bone density test. This was my third bone density test in 14 months.

My first bone density test was Nov 2021.
I started consulting with different doctors. If I must take meds I would. But I had to get to the truth.
The physician who appeared to know the most is Keith McCormick DC the chiropractor who got osteoporosis at a very young age and really understands it.

That first DEXA scan showed I had mild osteoperosis of the spine, within the margin of error.
So no McCormick said to take the CTX (blood) test and a few others.
CTX was good.
My CTX shows that the osteoclasts are not breaking down too much bone. therefore, my next bone density test shouldn’t show that that I am much worse.

I decided not to wait until 2 years for another scan and took
I took another bone density (aka DEXA) scan 10/2022 to see if that was true about the CTX.
My spine was actually better in that scan and it was now osteopenia.
My hip was a little worse bringing it outside the margin of error. McCormick said this was a tough call so I said to him why don’t I get a bone quality test (that he told me about) and I figured that will buy me a little time anyway lol.

Unfortunately, the bone quality test only measures the spine.
Since it’s unusual for your spine to get better and your hip to get worse, it made me think - what have I done differently since the last test? Why would my spine improve but not my hip? What is my spine doing that my hip is not?

I decided it had to be the Supernatural virtual reality exercise app that I exercise to (on the oculus quest VR helmet). Even though I am striking the air, there actually is resistance, and I push hard to hit it as powerfully as I can.

I decided to put weights on my ankles. Everything I read says weight training should be once or twice a week, and I certainly only did it once.

Back to yesterday and the bone quality (TBS) test and yet another bone density (DEXA) test.
My hip was back to where it was on the first test. This put me back inside the margin of error where I would not have to take medication
This demonstrated to me that the CTX score did in fact mean I'm not losing density quickly.
Yesterday's test shows that my spine continued to improve and my bone density score was no longerosteopenia. It was normal. My bone quality test was great. The tech really loved it and called me over to show me how I was completely in the green meaning It was normal which is a little unusual at my age, 74, altogether.

I may be wrong about supernatural helping.
I’ll probably take the DEXA again in six months because I am anxious to see how the hip does, and if it improves even more.
And if so, I’ll turn myself into a study. 😂

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@isabelle7 I do not do exercise bands even 3 years after my fractures (or after my traumatic fractures in 2006). I walk and do tai chi.

HRT is hormone replacement therapy, which some women are doing for bones and menopausal symptoms.

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@windyshores

@isabelle7 I do not do exercise bands even 3 years after my fractures (or after my traumatic fractures in 2006). I walk and do tai chi.

HRT is hormone replacement therapy, which some women are doing for bones and menopausal symptoms.

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@windyshores

Thanks. I don't know if we have tai chi around here. Walking is something we can all do and is so healthy.

I'm worried about the bands and that the physical therapist will say they're OK. The last time he started using bands he ended up with a fracture. Not sure it was from the bands but always worry about that.

We've been down with COVID and got it the day after he had prostate surgery. Fortunately he recovered quickly from surgery and he was given Paxlovid and had a very mild case of COVID. I cannot take Paxlovid and was given a different antiviral that I reacted to but kept taking for the benefits. I had way too many of the symptoms that come with COVID and was very miserable for over a week. I'm finally starting to feel human again. I hope you've been well.

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@isabelle7

@windyshores

Thanks. I don't know if we have tai chi around here. Walking is something we can all do and is so healthy.

I'm worried about the bands and that the physical therapist will say they're OK. The last time he started using bands he ended up with a fracture. Not sure it was from the bands but always worry about that.

We've been down with COVID and got it the day after he had prostate surgery. Fortunately he recovered quickly from surgery and he was given Paxlovid and had a very mild case of COVID. I cannot take Paxlovid and was given a different antiviral that I reacted to but kept taking for the benefits. I had way too many of the symptoms that come with COVID and was very miserable for over a week. I'm finally starting to feel human again. I hope you've been well.

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@isabelle7 there is a lot of COVID around! Hope you both feel better.

I am very cautious about physical therapists. They dont't all understand fractures, even if well trained in osteoporosis, usually prevention of fractures not after the fractures. I would never do the bands. My PT was limited to massage!

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@isabelle7

Can someone please explain what HRT is? I've never heard of it. (Just looked it up and it appears to be for women. My husband is the one with osteoporosis.)

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Hormone replacement therapy

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@isabelle7

My husband has 3 compression fractures on his spine that are now stabilizing. He was restricted to lifting no more than 5 pounds and no bending for about 6-8 weeks. The doctor says because they're stabilizing he can lift a bit more and can do some very careful bending. Still cautious about bending at the waist to pick things up.

He'd like to exercise again and talks about wanting to use resistance bands. I'm not sure that's the best form of exercise when someone has had three recent fractures and am afraid once he gets started doing them again he might slip and overdo it. Any suggestions on the best forms of exercise for someone in his situation?

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I'm so glad Windyshores replied and shared her experience with movement after fractures. I'm lucky, it's not something I know about. Best of luck to your husband as he moves forward to better health.

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@healthmatters

Your news is so good. Happy when anyone gets better.

One question, I am plan to begin placing weights at my waist in order to address my femur neck bone density. I understand that the weights have to be placed above the bone that needs to be built up.

For example if you want to build up your spine, upper body weight vest or weight lifting is needed.

If you want to build up your hips then a weight vest, upper body weight lifting or a weighted waist belt is needed.

You mentioned using ankle weights, did you do any upper body weight lifting or wear a weight vest or a weighted waist belt?

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My specialist didn't want me to use weights. I have a small frame and my spine has the most osteo.

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@windyshores

@isabelle7 there is a lot of COVID around! Hope you both feel better.

I am very cautious about physical therapists. They dont't all understand fractures, even if well trained in osteoporosis, usually prevention of fractures not after the fractures. I would never do the bands. My PT was limited to massage!

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Thanks @windyshores . I'll pass this along to my husband and hope he listens. I don't feel good about him doing the bands. Like I said, the first fracture came after he started using the bands again (for a very short time.)

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This is great news! Keep up the good work. Exercise is better than drugs. Also makes you feel better.

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@isabelle7

My husband has 3 compression fractures on his spine that are now stabilizing. He was restricted to lifting no more than 5 pounds and no bending for about 6-8 weeks. The doctor says because they're stabilizing he can lift a bit more and can do some very careful bending. Still cautious about bending at the waist to pick things up.

He'd like to exercise again and talks about wanting to use resistance bands. I'm not sure that's the best form of exercise when someone has had three recent fractures and am afraid once he gets started doing them again he might slip and overdo it. Any suggestions on the best forms of exercise for someone in his situation?

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@isabelle7

Hello again.
I am so glad your husband has been cleared to do a bit more exercise. I TOTALLY understand the anxiety over starting to rebuild strength without risking another fracture.

I am in the same boat .... I have talked with three different therapists and my bone doctor. They can't see how much the bone has improved in such a short time. So, I get vague or contradictory recommendations on how much I can do.

I am worried about a new fracture ... and frustrated that no one can give me much guidance. I do know that my blood pressure, weight, and cholesterol have all gone up, along with my anxiety level. There is a risk to NOT exercising also.

I don't remember if he has started on an anabolic treatment for osteoporosis, but regardless, it is hard to tell how much bone has been rebuilt, and how much risk he still has. After his multiple fractures, it isn't just a matter of the bones healing, but of the bone rebuilding. (At least that's what my doctors and therapists tell me.)

At any rate, I decided to go with doing my resistance exercises in the water. I am not swimming or doing water aerobics because of the torque to the spine, but I can do various leg lifts, arm resistance, stretches and walking frontwards and backwards in the pool. I also make an effort to walk up and downhill, standing and squatting for 2 minutes using hand weights, and work on balance exercises at home. And, of course, normal walking. Those were the only exercises that everyone agreed wouldn't lead to more fracture risk.

Good luck ... let me know what you come up with!! I am open to new exercise suggestions.

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@juanitalinda

@isabelle7

Hello again.
I am so glad your husband has been cleared to do a bit more exercise. I TOTALLY understand the anxiety over starting to rebuild strength without risking another fracture.

I am in the same boat .... I have talked with three different therapists and my bone doctor. They can't see how much the bone has improved in such a short time. So, I get vague or contradictory recommendations on how much I can do.

I am worried about a new fracture ... and frustrated that no one can give me much guidance. I do know that my blood pressure, weight, and cholesterol have all gone up, along with my anxiety level. There is a risk to NOT exercising also.

I don't remember if he has started on an anabolic treatment for osteoporosis, but regardless, it is hard to tell how much bone has been rebuilt, and how much risk he still has. After his multiple fractures, it isn't just a matter of the bones healing, but of the bone rebuilding. (At least that's what my doctors and therapists tell me.)

At any rate, I decided to go with doing my resistance exercises in the water. I am not swimming or doing water aerobics because of the torque to the spine, but I can do various leg lifts, arm resistance, stretches and walking frontwards and backwards in the pool. I also make an effort to walk up and downhill, standing and squatting for 2 minutes using hand weights, and work on balance exercises at home. And, of course, normal walking. Those were the only exercises that everyone agreed wouldn't lead to more fracture risk.

Good luck ... let me know what you come up with!! I am open to new exercise suggestions.

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@juanitalinda

Thank you for posting this! It was very helpful. I've been trying to talk him into going to the local pool at the high school. I'd like to go with him. I feel that is one of the safest things we can do, and like you said, stick to the exercises that won't hurt his spine even in the water. He's not a swimmer so no worries there. I'm going to copy/paste the exercises you're doing and let him know. I agree that it's too soon to know. Just because the fractures have stabilized doesn't mean he's out of the woods. I also agree with regular walking. I think that's one of the best forms of exercise. It is for me anyway.

He started on Forteo about 3-4 weeks ago so it's way too soon to tell. He's eating healthy (I see to that) and getting 600 mg calcium in the morning and 600 mg in the evening through foods. The doctor says it's better to get it through food than supplements. He's also on vit D. He takes a multi, Omega-3 and meds for his Giant Cell Arteritis which appears to be getting better. He's been on high doses of prednisone for over a year - up to 80 mg per day and three 1200 infusions - which is how he got osteoporosis in the first place. No one told us it would do this to his bones otherwise we would have started using bone meds. They should have. With all he's been through (had his prostate nearly all removed recently, thyroid nodule biopsied which turned out benign which is good, now diagnosed with sleep apnea - the poor guy was never sick other than your regular cold and cough periodically and then last year was hit with PMR then GCA. They discovered the other issues while doing scans for the GCA. So it's been a lot. And we just got over having COVID for the first time.

I will definitely let you know if we come up with any safe exercises. I'm worried about physical therapists, even the guy I really like. His response was since the fractures are stabilizing go ahead and add in exercise. But with no real guidance and a thumbs up on the resistance bands. I'm totally opposed to them. It's hard to find a physical therapist who really gets it. We might keep looking.

Good luck to you too.

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