Phonak Naida instead of Cochlear Implant

Posted by orgullodemexico @orgullodemexico, Aug 7 9:19pm

After 5 1/2 years of having 35db @ 125 Hz threshold and 65% word recognition in my left ear and 35db @ 125 Hz threshold and 45% in my right ear, I had another overnight loss in my left ear, which is now 60db @ 125 Hz threshold and 16% word recognition. There was no change in the right ear.

The audiologist said I should begin thinking about cochlear implant. Today a physician of otolaryngology at a major hospital in Chicago gave me the intratympanic steroid injection. I had this injection to the same left ear in 2019, but the hearing was not restored.

I know the Phonak Naida family is for severe to profound hearing loss. Would it be worth moving from my Phonak Audeo Lumity aids to Naida Lumity before I consider cochlear implant? I've read some experience by C.I. users, and they all seem to say they have trouble hearing conversations in background noise. Which leaves me to think, what's the point of cochlear implant?

Is there a rule of thumb that audiologists use in determining that a patient can no longer be helped with hearing aids?

Or perhaps wait for reviews of the new Phonak Audeo Sphere Infinio.

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Good questions. Suggest you post them on the Active Hearing Loss Community at hearingtracker.com, as lots of audiologists participate in that forum. https://forum.hearingtracker.com/about

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Every major brand of hearing aids has a powerful option that may be worth trying before going the cochlear implant route. It would be interesting to know how that worked for you and IF it helped you hear in settings with a great deal of background noise.

Cochlear implants are not perfect, but successful users nearly always find them to be better in noisy settings than their hearing aids were. Last night I had dinner out in a noisy restaurant with friends. I used the mini mic 2+ that works with my CI processor and was able to participate quite well in conversation. CIs are a big step up from even the most powerful hearing aids. Those powerful hearing aids are certainly, worth a try though.

I commend your audiologist for suggesting that a CI might be worth considering.

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@julieo4

Every major brand of hearing aids has a powerful option that may be worth trying before going the cochlear implant route. It would be interesting to know how that worked for you and IF it helped you hear in settings with a great deal of background noise.

Cochlear implants are not perfect, but successful users nearly always find them to be better in noisy settings than their hearing aids were. Last night I had dinner out in a noisy restaurant with friends. I used the mini mic 2+ that works with my CI processor and was able to participate quite well in conversation. CIs are a big step up from even the most powerful hearing aids. Those powerful hearing aids are certainly, worth a try though.

I commend your audiologist for suggesting that a CI might be worth considering.

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I was hoping to hear from you after you said you tried to reach me.
I did talk with the Envoy company about the Esteem hearing aid that is FDA approved and has been out at least 14 years. They said it was nothing like the CI’s and could restore a persons hearing while being invisible and never having to come out.
That would be life changing for so many people that post on this forum.
The problem is the cost of $50,000 per ear and the fact that it is a prosthetic and Medicare refuses to cover it presently. There is a bill in Congress to get that approval but that is a long and arduous path.
Why don’t Audiologist’s mention it. If my research is correct CI’s can cost roughly the same and Medicare will pay for those. Secondly why can’t Medicare approve both and negotiate with both companies? I am sure lobbyist’s have quite a bit to do with that.
I would welcome responses from our moderator or anyone else in the group.
Maybe we should all put pressure on AARP.

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