Caffeine's Role in Osteoporosis
Hi All,
Still finding things to ask about . . .
In researching OP testing both recently and in the past, I note that caffeine may play a role in OP. Unfortunately, no doc has ever asked me about my coffee/caffeine consumption throughout my life. When I was working, it was nothing for me to down an entire pot of coffee in the morning, and then go for another cup or two in the evening; I still drink about four cups daily.
Some studies suggest that caffeine does not weaken bones. A Mayo Clinic study suggests that overindulgence of caffeine "predisposes one to cortical bone loss from the proximal (upper end of the) femur". Knowing one possible adverse reaction to Reclast is unusual femur fractures, does it stand to reason that perhaps that should be a topic of discussion? Is it possible that those of us who like our morning cuppa Joe are actually putting ourselves at risk for femur fracture?
Just wanted to run this one by our group. Thanks for all who listen to the ramblings. Cheers!
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@nme1985, I believe there are some strong powers we access when we use humor to get through our trials.
I commend you for cutting your DC consumption by 90%!! 🎉. We should always do the best we can for our bodies and our minds, especially as we grow older.
All the best! Cheers!
Well isn’t that information just terrifying, @teb. Thanks for the intel.
Cheers!
@teb , @madhub140 , @beanieone
I was reading teb's comments about the dangers of comfrey. And madhub's response.
Teb says there are dangers and madhub says someone is touting it on the internet.
Personally, I believe this would be a good question for a pharmacist and doctor. Whenever I'm not sure about a drug or other substance I call our local pharmacist and they have been wonderful at giving me information on drugs and other products. Just a thought.
I found a link from Mount Sinai, what I believe to be a reliable source, that addresses this (scroll down to the "Precautions" and "Possible Interactions" sections.) https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/herb/comfrey#:~:text=Comfrey%20has%20toxic%20substances%20that,only%20under%20a%20doctor's%20supervision.
Here's what it has to say:
Precautions
Comfrey has toxic substances that can cause severe liver damage and even death. You should never take comfrey by mouth.
The toxic substances in comfrey can be absorbed by the skin. Even creams and ointments should be used for only a short time, and only under a doctor's supervision.
DO NOT use comfrey on open wounds or broken skin.
DO NOT use comfrey if you have liver disease, alcoholism, or cancer.
Children, the elderly, and pregnant or breastfeeding women should not use comfrey products, even ones for the skin.
Possible Interactions
Since comfrey may increase the risk of liver damage, it should not be used with other medications that may also affect the liver, such as acetaminophen (Tylenol). If you take any medications, whether prescription or over the counter, ask your doctor before using comfrey.
You should not use some herbs that have also been known to cause liver problems, such as kava, skullcap, and valerian, while using comfrey ointments or creams.
ps - at the end of the article they site supporting research
I used to be a Diet Pepsi fiend. I got off of it by drinking sparkling water plain with no sugars. Mineral water even better. It has the carbonation which is probably what you actually crave. Then you might be able to ween off of that too as any carbonation is not good for bones. But….sparkling water is much better than diet colas and provides a better compromise. I have gotten several friends off diet sodas this way. Now I just drink mineral water or filtered water and diet cokes taste disgusting to me!
Something new every day! So much information and thanks to all who have posted info/answers to these questions. Why are we not getting this info, at an early age, from our health care professionals?
I don’t drink a lot of carbonated drinks, but I think you are correct in stating that it’s the bubbles I crave, not necessarily the flavor. I read (after seeing your post) that the phosphorous in cola drinks can cause bone loss, however, carbonated water can actually be good for our bones. Does it stand to reason that drinking clear sodas (7-Up, Sprite) would be good for our bones? Perhaps I can get my “fizz” elsewhere!
Cheers!
I just found this thread and find the comments enlightening. I've heard for several years about the possible impact of caffeine on bone loss, but really didn't pay much attention until I was diagnosed with Osteoporosis. I drank at least a pot of coffee a day all my working years, and into my retirement, but quit it cold turkey about two weeks ago. Have to admit I haven't really missed it. In these latter few years I think it was more the flavored creamer I was after rather than the coffee itself!
My doc HAS in the past asked me if I drink coffee. She said a little was okay, but to make it half coffee/half skim milk (which I sometimes did, but mostly used the creamer or a combination). That was before my bone scan results so I plan to question her at my next appointment. What makes it so confusing is that every other day there's a new report out about the health effects of coffee. One day it's good for you, the next day it's bad. At this point I'm down to water and herbal tea. I'm considering decaf instant coffee, which my husband drinks, but from what I've read it's not totally caffeine-free, so I don't know whether to take the chance. Better safe than sorry.
Howdy @aacatsaregreat,
Thanks for joining the discussion - the more the merrier, 😬. I have never used any kind of flavoring or sugar in my coffee, but I do drink hi-test, flavored brews. Also, my preparation makes the coffee about half as strong as “recommended by the coffee producers”. So there’s that!
I, too, have read conflicting accounts of whether or not coffee is good or bad for us and our bones (and there are other members who have posted interesting info here).
Until recently, I thought caffeine was (sort of) good for our general health. Sadly, I found the article discussing the effects caffeine has on our bones after I met with my rheumatologist and none of my docs along the way have ever asked me if I drank coffee, tea, colas . . . only alcohol, lol.
We need to suss out more articles about this subject because many of us are older and have been drinking beverages that contain that vile caffeine 🫨 for quite awhile.
Cheers, one and all!
Is it the caffeine or the acidity? If it’s the acidity you can make coffee with alkaline water. If it’s the caffeine, you can drink decaf. Or do both 🤷♀️
I have a feeling it’s the caffeine that’s the culprit @tmarkow as colas are also suspect. Also, no decaf for me as the flavor is, in a word, yucky! 😝
Anyone else care to post?
Cheers!
Consider also the fact that decaf coffee contains chemicals from the decaf process.