STOP! Don't do this if you have osteoporosis
I am starting this thread hoping people will post things they've done that they have regretted, for one reason or another, when suffering from osteoporosis.
I'm going to start the conversation with a list of things we've learned already, and we are newbies!
1. Lift objects heavier than recommended by your physician (for my husband, that means nothing heavier than 5 pounds right now, with 3 fractures).
2. Don't bend at the waist! He got a fracture bending to empty the dishwasher.
3. Be cautious when driving - avoid rough roads, bumps, and go very slow over speed bumps.
4. We had planned to go on a boating tour (on a commercial fishing boat) on the ocean. After seeing a boat rocking and bouncing over choppy water we decided not to go.
5. Do not slouch when sitting in a chair or couch. If you're going to rest for any period of time on a couch elevate your legs (per our physical therapist).
6. Do not try any exercises until you have cleared it with your doctor, especially before your doctor confirms your fracture is stable.)
Please add to the discussion. I think this could be useful to people, especially people new to this.
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I am a 70 y.o, active female and was diagnosed with severe osteoporosis a few years ago. I am slightly underweight for my height; I walk 30 mins at least 3x/wk and exercise regularly (flexibility and weight bearing). Very few "pains & aches" and have never had a fracture. I get a Dexa scan every 2 years.
I think years of steroids for asthma exacerbations were the culprit. But Fasenra (a biologic) has completely controlled my asthma since 2018, and I haven't needed steroids since then.
I was on Fosomax for several years, then my gynecologist recommended stopping. She suggested I see an endocrinologist, who prescribed Prolia (1x/6mos). I did that for one-an-a-half years, then was advised that Prolia actually doesn't strengthen the whole bone and can result in fractures that are difficult, if not impossible, to repair.
My endo was not happy I just quit the Prolia regimen without consulting her (couldn't get an appointment for 4 months!). I consider myself knowledgeable and proactive regarding my health, but this clash of viewpoints has got me frustrated and concerned...who's right and what should I do now?
@proudgrandma
I’ve done a ton of research on steroid-induced osteoporosis. My husband has it and it’s bad. He’s got three fractures and is restricted to lifting nothing more than 5 pounds and can’t bend down making life difficult.
The drug that I found to be best for steroid-induced osteo is Forteo. It’s expensive and it’s daily injections so a lot of doctors don’t bother to tell their patients about it. But it’s supposed to be the best for rebuilding bone. His endocrinologist agreed with me. She put in a prescription and we are lucky insurance will cover it. He starts it on Monday. I think it would be worth discussing this with your doctor. And if you’re not happy with your doc I’d find a new one. For him the endocrinologist has been the most knowledgeable.
Something to know about Forteo. As soon as you go off it you can begin to lose bone quickly unless you immediately begin on Reclast which I believe is a once every six month injection at a doctor’s office. Or you can do Fosamax again but I’ve read that Reclast is superior.
I hope this helps.
@proudgrandma as you may know and is frequently discussed on this forum and by my doctors, Prolia has a very risky rebound and we are supposed to follow it with a bisphosphonate to avoid rapid bone loss and increase in fracture risk (see also McCormick's book "Great Bones" and Dr. Ben Leder's video on YouTube on Combinations and Sequencing). If you have done fewer than 3 Prolia shots, you might be able to do Fosamax. If you have done more than that on Prolia, McCormick and others advise Reclast.
It's interesting that you have only been on anti-resorptives which increase density by affecting turnover vs "bone builders" like Forteo, Tymlos and Eventiy. I have been told we cannot do Forteo or Tymlos right after Prolia but I don't know if Evenity is possible. It is complicated. I hope you can discuss with your doctor.
But stopping Prolia cold turkey is reputed to be risky!
ps @isabelle7 I am assuming you meant Prolia, not Forteo, in your last lines!
God bless you to find some peace in all your medical issues. Big hugs. There are walking medical miracles among us. I hope you will be one!
@windyshores
I actually meant Forteo because that's what I thought I'd read. I wonder if I mixed it up with Prolia?? Our endocrinologist told us that he would do two years of Forteo shots followed by a couple years of Reclast. My understanding was that you do the Reclast afterwards because of that same rebound effect.
@loriesco , @lilyann
I'm with @loriesco all the way about medical miracles!! I've known some personally and I too hope you will be one of them!! Life is short and we must remember to enjoy the small things that bring us pleasure - a bird landing on the windowsill, hopping around and looking in as though to say "hi." We have lots of birds here because we feed, water and house them and I am amazed at how much joy they bring. Recently two sets of babies were born in houses in a tree just outside our dining room. We've been able to watch them grow, watch them grow anxious to get out into the world and finally taking their first flight. Then hopping from limb to limb of our tree, practicing short flights until they finally get the nerve to fly across the yard. It's a sight to see, if you're a bird lover. That's just one small example of the many, many things in life we have to be thankful for and that we have to enjoy. I hope you have nature around you because for me, it's nature that brings so much joy, happiness and peace to my otherwise pretty tumultuous life. In the past year my husband went from a healthy and strong man who I've been married to for 43 years. Just over a year ago he developed something called PMR, then in Feb he developed Giant Cell Arteritis which was devastating and scary. But we were plugging along, trying to get him through that without losing his sight or having a stroke. He had to take high doses of prednisone for both illnesses which is how he developed steroid-induced osteoporosis. The osteoporosis has proven to be the most difficult of all to deal with. He starts on Forteo on Monday. In the meantime, just when we thought we were making some headway (his labs are coming back really good lately and his most recent x-ray showed no new fractures - he has 3 - and that his fractures are stabilizing.) Which was all great news! Then on Friday he went in for a bladder ultrasound before his first urology appointment on the 31st of this month (they found narrowing in an unrelated CT scan), an appointment I didn't go to because we thought it was so simple. When he got home he walked in limping and looking like the end of the world had struck. Evidently, after urinating there was still too much urine in his bladder so to avoid possible damage to his kidneys, they told him he could not leave without a catheter. So now we are dealing with this new issue and neither of us knew the first thing about catheters. However, after two full days dealing with this thing, watching more YouTube videos than I'd care to admit, I finally now feel I'm a pro at this. But, it was quite rude of them to send him home like that without even teaching him the first thing about catheter use. Anyway, we will get through this as it's a temporary fix. I'm praying!
I'm not sure how I got off on that topic but when I started out wishing you the best and wishing for a miracle! I'm going to tag @windyshores to bring her up to date on my husband.
@isabelle7 ,
Thank you for your personal account of what you and your husband are going through. I am praying for more joys like the birds, peace, healing, and guidance. Your generosity in encouraging others and sharing of your life is inspirational. I wish you joy and all the best.
Thanks for sharing how you cope. Yes, nature is my thing - along with social media and ART is my first passion. Medical stuff gets in the way but I continually find avenues to sustain, improve, and stay "in there." Yesterday was a horrible day to get thru - today I am BETTER and more focused. I just don't know why some days are physically better or worse anymore! So it helps to always be GRATEFUL! yesterday around 3:30 pm I just had to sit and star into space for awhile. So I decided to REACH to the gratitude side and be thankful that I COULD have the stability to just sit still and stare into space! I'm so used to being busy that I can be grateful I have a decent home, AC if I need to use it, and doggy love, to just rest! Today I am back at "busy!"
The catheter thing caused me problems at the hospital so I appreciated your comments. I was really perturbed when TWICE it caused me problems and it was dismissed by everyone. Eventually I was diagnosed with Interstitial Cystitis (IC) -- like I really needed one more thing on top of the bone degeneration and surgeries, coronary vascular disease and IBS.... I go to a urologist now for a treatment called Instillation therapy but I have found something great I'll share: I drink Aloe Vera Juice "inner filet". I buy a 32 ounce jar for about $6 - $10. It lasts a couple months. I put a tablespoon or so in anything acidic - morning coffee, wine, tomato sauce - I can't taste it. But it has helped with urinary functioning tremendously! I am prone to eating all the stuff you shouldn't with urinary tract irritations like the catheter and the nasty medications. So it really helps cleanse the insides. Just a little does you. There is even a dental spray with aloe I give the old dog and put in his water! My Asian neighbors seem to know the drill! They boil a little of the plant innards in water and drink it as a daily tonic. I too learn from youtube now more than doctors. And the forum here! Best wishes! Lori
Good grief @isabelle7. You are getting quite the medical training! Take care of yourself if you can!
@babbsjoy
Thanks for your prayers! I have received so much knowledge from people on Mayo Clinic Connect that I hope to give back in some small way by sharing what we are going through, and what we learn along the way. I wish you all the best too!