Constant nausea and vomiting

Posted by katelynlanz @katelynlanz, Jun 24, 2023

46 year old female, constant nausea and vomiting for 8 months. Pt. Has history of polycythemia Vera, cervical cancer ( total hysterectomy), thyroid cancer ( total thyroidectomy), hypertension. Pt. has been hospitalized multiple times over the last 8 months with no answers. Pt. has had multiple CT’s and X-rays of the stomach, as well as stomach emptying study, endoscopy, and many blood tests. Everything is “normal”. Doctors say she is an anomaly and cannot diagnose her. They have ruled out gasteroparesis, stool blockage, spreading of cancer, and food allergies. Pt. cannot keep fluids or food down, has very high and very low blood pressures, has had hallucinations, bloody noses, chest pain (usually with the vomiting), has lost 80lbs in the last 5 months, and has been in pre-renal failure many times due to the dehydration. I know there is plenty I am missing so please please please ask questions and I will answer them to the best or my ability. The Pt. is my mother who I am convinced will die unless i find someone who has seen this sort of thing can before and help find me answers. She cannot just be an anomaly with no answer’s. Someone out there has to have seen this before. Please help me.

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Hi charles826, YUCKY YUCKY constant nausea is always the worst, especially after trying everything. For many years I would have 1-3 random episodes with no apparent reason, each episode would last about a week. There was little to no vomiting. I was working then, I owned a tax and bookkeeping business, so I couldn't stay at home during tax season. For me I used: during daytime: charcoal (but it needs to be used 1+hrs before or after anything else), ginger(high doses), hint: don't use ginger if vomiting is a probable action, because it Burns really bad coming out. Promethezine(Phenergan), peppermint gum, small pieces of peppermint candy, filtered water (carried my huge mug everywhere), nibbled constantly on dry cereal(fruit filled mini shredded wheat, corn Chex), never get hungry, stay on cool side, breathe thru nose only . Dramamine non-drowsy didn't exist back then. After work/evenings: loose clothing made a big impact for me.Dramamine (the drowsy one, I took dbl dose), take with lots of water, this dissolves extremely quickly and it burns your throat really bad., Phenergan, low dose Valium helps calm your stomach and your brain. A heating pad on stomach. Laying down, vs sitting relieves some pressure. Sip diluted chicken broth. Are you vomiting? Dry heaves? Temperature of the rooms and of your body, is it elevated? Bowels normal? What was the GI testing for? What did the doctor think about it? What happened 8 months ago ? Like move, change in anything you use :household cleaning, toothpaste, shampoo etc anything that has a scent/smell. I've no idea why it took me so long to figure out that my toothpaste was a big problem. Do you have migraines, neck pain, bloated/pain in stomach?
I know I am wordy, but unfortunately, for different reasons and for no reason I have ample experience with nausea from requiring hospitalization to just find out what works for me. I hope you find some relief FAST!!! Shelley

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Thank you. I do use ginger. Phenergan makes me sleep. No vomiting at all. How do you use charcoal? Thanks for all your suggestions

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Profile picture for stubeckj70 @stubeckj70

I am a 73 year old woman looking for someone with similar issues: Limb-girdle Muscular Dystrophy withcardiopathy(38 years) and now in congestive heart failure; Gastroparesis due to nerve damage of digestive system. (7 years); Pacemaker x 30 years due to slow pulse rate and now it is 0 and I am 100% paced. Pacemaker replaced 5 timesand in 2018 had cardiac resynchronization and defibrillator placed. Chief compliant: Constant nausea .

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Even though the nausea is a symptom of something,you could try Agastache Tummy formula syrup. It works wonders for me. Also acupuncture.

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Profile picture for charles826 @charles826

Have nausea every day. GI dr has done every test and I have been prescribed many meds that don’t work. Have bought many over counter items that don’t work. This is more than eight months now. Even tried Cbd and thc gummies. No help. Is there anyone who can help??

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Same here. Acupuncture and Agastache Tummy syrup helps me.

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Profile picture for charles826 @charles826

Have nausea every day. GI dr has done every test and I have been prescribed many meds that don’t work. Have bought many over counter items that don’t work. This is more than eight months now. Even tried Cbd and thc gummies. No help. Is there anyone who can help??

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Have you tried accupuncture or Accu pressure?

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Thank you. I do use ginger. Phenergan makes me sleep. No vomiting at all. How do you use charcoal? Thanks for all your suggestions

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I use the charcoal capsules 4-6, 1-3x day when the nausea is bad. I use less if the nausea is less. Remember, drink, drink, and drink water. You want it to stay intact for it to get to your stomach and lower. You mentioned that there is no vomiting; is this because the nausea doesn't hit you like that, or you force yourself not to vomit, or your nausea is just light enough not to cause vomiting? Shelley

Editor's Note:
Activated charcoal is used in the emergency treatment of certain kinds of poisoning. It helps prevent the poison from being absorbed from the stomach into the body.
Activated charcoal has not been shown to be effective in relieving diarrhea and intestinal gas.

The side effects of taking charcoal are nausea, vomiting, constipation and diarrhea. It is not known how charcoal might affect the balance of gut bacteria in the body, especially long-term.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/charcoal-activated-oral-route/description/drg-20070087

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Profile picture for charles826 @charles826

Have nausea every day. GI dr has done every test and I have been prescribed many meds that don’t work. Have bought many over counter items that don’t work. This is more than eight months now. Even tried Cbd and thc gummies. No help. Is there anyone who can help??

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Hello @charles826 and all others who have participated in this discussion on nausea. I have read several posts encouraging the use of charcoal in the treatment of nausea. However, I would like to caution you on the use of this supplement for nausea.

I'm providing a link from a reputable website, WebMD, regarding benefits as well as side-effects. Always, of course, discuss changes in your supplements with your doctor before adding a new supplement. Supplements can often run interference with other medications.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/activated-charcoal-uses-risks

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Profile picture for stubeckj70 @stubeckj70

I am a 73 year old woman looking for someone with similar issues: Limb-girdle Muscular Dystrophy withcardiopathy(38 years) and now in congestive heart failure; Gastroparesis due to nerve damage of digestive system. (7 years); Pacemaker x 30 years due to slow pulse rate and now it is 0 and I am 100% paced. Pacemaker replaced 5 timesand in 2018 had cardiac resynchronization and defibrillator placed. Chief compliant: Constant nausea .

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When considering complementary treatments or supplements, be open-minded yet skeptical. Learn about the potential benefits and risks.

Keep in mind that natural substances can also have toxicities, adverse side effects and treatment interactions. Supplements are not regulated and can be marketed without rigorous clinical testing.

Activated charcoal is used in the emergency treatment of certain kinds of poisoning. It helps prevent the poison from being absorbed from the stomach into the body. Activated charcoal has not been shown to be effective in relieving diarrhea and intestinal gas.

The side effects of taking charcoal are nausea, vomiting, constipation and diarrhea. It is not known how charcoal might affect the balance of gut bacteria in the body, especially long-term.

Read more from Mayo Clinic here https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/charcoal-activated-oral-route/description/drg-20070087

A reminder about guideline number 1 in the Community Guidelines:
1. Be careful about giving out medical advice
- Sharing your own experience is fine, but don't tell other members what they should do.
- Experiences and information shared by members on the Mayo Clinic Connect are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment.
- Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read on the community.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/about-connect/tab/community-guidelines/

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Hello @charles826 and all others who have participated in this discussion on nausea. I have read several posts encouraging the use of charcoal in the treatment of nausea. However, I would like to caution you on the use of this supplement for nausea.

I'm providing a link from a reputable website, WebMD, regarding benefits as well as side-effects. Always, of course, discuss changes in your supplements with your doctor before adding a new supplement. Supplements can often run interference with other medications.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/activated-charcoal-uses-risks

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From Shelley...
I apologize for any miscommunication with my post about charcoal. I have used it with great results for years. I did look up to see if it can cause constipation, I couldn't find anything. It is the best, gentle, no side effects, to me, for gas. It worked well for my children too. I will read your link. I will be much less open in sharing about supplements, cuz I do understand that they are not required to be tested strictly. Again, I definitely meant no harm. Shelley

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When considering complementary treatments or supplements, be open-minded yet skeptical. Learn about the potential benefits and risks.

Keep in mind that natural substances can also have toxicities, adverse side effects and treatment interactions. Supplements are not regulated and can be marketed without rigorous clinical testing.

Activated charcoal is used in the emergency treatment of certain kinds of poisoning. It helps prevent the poison from being absorbed from the stomach into the body. Activated charcoal has not been shown to be effective in relieving diarrhea and intestinal gas.

The side effects of taking charcoal are nausea, vomiting, constipation and diarrhea. It is not known how charcoal might affect the balance of gut bacteria in the body, especially long-term.

Read more from Mayo Clinic here https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/charcoal-activated-oral-route/description/drg-20070087

A reminder about guideline number 1 in the Community Guidelines:
1. Be careful about giving out medical advice
- Sharing your own experience is fine, but don't tell other members what they should do.
- Experiences and information shared by members on the Mayo Clinic Connect are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment.
- Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read on the community.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/about-connect/tab/community-guidelines/

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From Shelley
Colleen, I apologized to Teresa, mentor/volunteer also.
I have had such great success with charcoal for gas, for years. I felt it was safe enough to use with my children. I would never ever use anything for them that I didn't absolutely trust. I thought I was clarifying my suggestions as working for me, but I obviously didn't do a very thorough job. I apologize that my post was done in the wrong way. I would never suggest to anyone to use any product I had not had great success with. I suffer from CIC💩, so I don't, can't take any chances on anything that might cause it to be worse. I will be much more cautious in my posts. Shelley

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From Shelley
Colleen, I apologized to Teresa, mentor/volunteer also.
I have had such great success with charcoal for gas, for years. I felt it was safe enough to use with my children. I would never ever use anything for them that I didn't absolutely trust. I thought I was clarifying my suggestions as working for me, but I obviously didn't do a very thorough job. I apologize that my post was done in the wrong way. I would never suggest to anyone to use any product I had not had great success with. I suffer from CIC💩, so I don't, can't take any chances on anything that might cause it to be worse. I will be much more cautious in my posts. Shelley

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Hi @shelleyw, thanks for posting. Yes, you did the right thing in advising that the things you do work for you. I appreciate that. Your post was not done improperly.

Charcoal was popular on social media and touted by supplement companies a few years ago. Hence we jumped in to post evidence-based information about its use.

Activated charcoal is effective for clearing out toxins in emergency poisoning situations for specific toxins. There have been a few studies that have researched charcoal for indigestion: to reduce gas and bloating, and to treat and prevent diarrhea. But the evidence remains inconclusive.

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