Fatigue and radiation

Posted by robertmizek @robertmizek, Jun 6 9:21pm

I’m 69 years old and aside from having stage three prostate cancer, I am arguably in great shape. I am on my 3rd day of IMRT lymph basin radiation. I swear that I already am starting to feel fatigue. I needed a nap yesterday and an even longer one today. The radiologist says my fatigue isn’t from the radiation. I’ve been handling Orgovyx and Zytiga without any issues and really haven’t changed my activity level.

Has anyone else experienced a quick onset of fatigue with IMRT?

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@kujhawk1978

Here's my clinical history...

I've had three separate radiation treatments:
SRT 39 IMRT 70.2 Gya
WPLN 25 IMRT 45 Gya
SBRT 5x 40 Gya

SRT was done as a monotherapy, the other two in conjunction with ADT, either Lupron or Orgovyx.

I did not experience any fatigue with the SRT, just the hassle with the full bladder requirement those of us wo have done that know so well and the fact that for eight weeks you couldn't take any extended vacations! When my radiation team said not to drink coffee or alcohol because of the bladder irritation, I smiled and said...

The WPLN was in conjunction with Lupron . I had been on Lupron for seven months before I started with the WPLN radiation (that was to allow me to complete the six cycles of chemotherapy and recover). I didn't do any scientific analysis but qualitatively, I did not notice an uptick in fatigue other than what I was already experiencing from the Lupron.

The SBRT and start Orgovyx were pretty much simultaneous in terms of start time. Again, qualitative, not scientific, but I did not experience any fatigue from the radiation and the side effects of Orgovyx though it dropped the T quickly, were slow in coming.

I am not saying no to the fatigue from radiation, just my experience.

Keep in mind my wife says I'm too honery to have anything bother me.

Like you, I exercise frequently, most every day at the gym riding the indoor bike, lifting weights and swimming. If not, riding my bike outside, 25-25 miles, I did that even while on treatments.

Kevin

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You are awesome! Thanks for sharing that.

You wrote: “When my radiation team said not to drink coffee or alcohol because of the bladder irritation, I smiled and said...”. What did you say? The reason I ask is because one of my simple pleasures in life is Starbucks, London fog, tea latte, and I’ve been staying away from it. I cheated and I had an iced yesterday and another one today. Have not noticed any difference with urinary irritation. I’m also thinking of either having a glass of wine or preferably a gin martini dinner tonight; just one mind you.

Thanks again for your comments and as always, best wishes to you for success on your journey.

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@ajpernsteiner

I had 45 days of radiation and 2 years of Orgovyx. The entire time on radiation I took naps. Just about every day. When the radiation ended, my need for naps ended within days. I continued a gym routine and stayed very active. I felt the radiation definitely brought on the fatigue. I didn't fight it. Now I'm doing great.

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Thank you for your helpful comments. I appreciate them and you.

The fatigue is a weird thing. Yesterday I felt great all day and was busy sunrise to sundown and then some. Today I needed two short naps after breakfast! Then felt great. Went for a 10 mile ride on my recumbent trike and worked in my home shop. I will go to church this afternoon and dinner afterwards with my lovely wife.

Thanks again and best wishes to you for success on your journey.

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@robertmizek

Thank you for that suggestion. I will see if one of the local stores carry it and will try it. All the best to you on your journey with PCa.

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My wife orders the tea from Amazon- FYI. Don’t take close to bedtime, you won’t sleep. Lol

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@robertmizek

You are awesome! Thanks for sharing that.

You wrote: “When my radiation team said not to drink coffee or alcohol because of the bladder irritation, I smiled and said...”. What did you say? The reason I ask is because one of my simple pleasures in life is Starbucks, London fog, tea latte, and I’ve been staying away from it. I cheated and I had an iced yesterday and another one today. Have not noticed any difference with urinary irritation. I’m also thinking of either having a glass of wine or preferably a gin martini dinner tonight; just one mind you.

Thanks again for your comments and as always, best wishes to you for success on your journey.

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I smiled and said..."ok...!"

I am not one to not be candid and frank with my medical team I also generally believe there is no such things as "TMI (too much information" when talking with your medical team either. In this case, I felt the advice on coffee and alcohol was like the "standard of care," population not individual based.

I did not go crazy, downing multiple cups of coffee or drinks. Like most things, moderation, most days, a single cup off coffee in the morning, a lone drink - Manhattan, Old Fashioned, glass of wine, Loong Island Iced Tea...in the evening. There were occasions where I may have doubled that. Had I experienced irritation, no doubt I would have pulled the plug on coffee and alcohol.

Kevin

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@kujhawk1978

I smiled and said..."ok...!"

I am not one to not be candid and frank with my medical team I also generally believe there is no such things as "TMI (too much information" when talking with your medical team either. In this case, I felt the advice on coffee and alcohol was like the "standard of care," population not individual based.

I did not go crazy, downing multiple cups of coffee or drinks. Like most things, moderation, most days, a single cup off coffee in the morning, a lone drink - Manhattan, Old Fashioned, glass of wine, Loong Island Iced Tea...in the evening. There were occasions where I may have doubled that. Had I experienced irritation, no doubt I would have pulled the plug on coffee and alcohol.

Kevin

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Brilliant and intelligent! 👍

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@robertmizek
Fatique symptoms and taking radiation therapy is a symptom. I was told this by both UFHPTI and Mayo Clinic.

Your prostrate and surrounding tissues being treated are undergoing damage and your body is trying to heal. I was told to expect fatique and I did get some about 3 weeks end. However I was a extensive exerciser prior to radiation treatment and thus nothing stopped me from continuing other than riding a bike because it would affect the Space Oar.

I think some of my fatique could have come from them taking me off Co-Q-10 which I was taking because of taking statin along with my R/O taking me off every supplement that helps with oxidation. I was told by R/O that all those supplements do help protect organs and tissues from damage but that protection would also apply to the cancer cells so they don't want any supplements affecting the damage they need from radiation that will damage the cancer cells and by that eventually die as they cannot reproduced like good cells can after damaged by radiation treatments.

This information comes from my UFHPTI R/O and Mayo Clinic R/O not my personal opinions.

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