Tired of living

Posted by thisismarilynb @thisismarilynb, Apr 17, 2023

When I wake up each morning I am not grateful. For me life is not worth living. I had a miserable childhood and was traumatized by an abusive mother. I finally left home and went far away by myself to try and make a life. To a degree I was successful. I was fortunate to meet a wonderful man and we were married for 59 years before his death. Even so I have never been able to make friends or be comfortable in meeting people. I shrink from going into crowds. Now I am alone. I am 88 years old and am sick and tired of living. The only sure thing I know is that I will not do away with myself.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Just Want to Talk Support Group.

@jankiss

Hi Marilyn, I enjoyed reading your response. Re your feelings about your wonderfully long marriage and how it “never was”, I think that somehow, after the years pass, it’s almost like looking back on another person’s life if you get my drift...I’ve experienced those sort of feelings. Sometimes when I look back on some of my life experiences I almost feel…did that really happen? It’s inexplicable to me. I’m glad you found the courage to tell your mother you wanted nothing to do with her. I think it’s a power thing with the type of women our mothers were. As I said, I stopped seeing my mother after my father died but like your mother she never gave up trying every year or two. It was unfathomable really as she never liked me so why keep trying? She actually told me once I didn’t mean as much to her as her sons. The first time she told me to get out of the house and never come back I was eleven years old. She was good at putting the knife in and then twisting it for good measure (figuratively speaking). You may think that possibly I was an ill-behaved child but I was as good as gold, quiet and polite and tried so hard to please her by helping round the house and when I started work I would buy her flowers and other gifts but nothing worked. Luckily I gave up when I was relatively young as I had a friend (who died at 54) who became her mother’s carer and her mother treated her terribly but she had nothing bad to say about the daughter who rarely bothered to visit her. I’m glad you have a good relationship with your elder son and I think I would take the same action as you with regard to your younger son. He doesn’t deserve to benefit from your death if he doesn’t care for you when you’re alive. It’s wonderful that you are still in good health…things would be so much worse if you were not.

Re your suggestion of counselling, I hope you won’t take offence but I don’t have much faith in counselling…it’s not really a big thing in the UK like it is in the US but it is available. I’ve known instances when counselling has done more harm than good.

We have been to the US many times, in fact we’re going in September. I’ve been to New York, Chicago, La Jolla, Santa Monica, Seattle, Las Vegas, Key Largo, Orlando, Los Angeles. I would like to be a penpal (that sounds very old fashioned now doesn’t it as most people send a Facebook invite) but if you would like to my email. I won’t be at all offended if you prefer not. I have enjoyed our interaction and feel better for it as I was a little down today.

PS. Have you thought about getting a pet? My husband doesn’t like dogs but if anything happened to him I think I would definitely get a dog as a little companion.

Jump to this post

How nice of you to respond - and so quickly. I was very fortunate in my counsellor. She has a Ph.d in Gerontology, also two other Master's Degrees and keeps up her requirements to maintain her counselling in several different states. She did a lot of good for me. Especially when I was at the point of considering taking my own life. I did call the Suicide Hot Line and as you can see did not carry it out and never will. Yes, I have thought about a pet but I do not think it is for me. I absolutely do not like small dogs and big ones are too much for me. I live in a 55+ community and our yards are quite small. Certainly not big enough for even a medium size dog. Also they need exercise and I have to admit that I am too lazy for that. There are many days when I do not leave the house. Circumstances have been such that I do not want to mix with people right now and maybe never. I had a complete right hip replacement two years ago. While I am in the house I can walk without any kind of assistance. However when I am out I use a walker because I have a fear of falling. I just saw the surgeon last January and he chided me for using a cane. I will see him again in two years if I am still here. At the time I said nothing but will continue using a cane or walker. In this country they do not keep you in the hospital after surgery. I was sent to what I can only describe as a hellhole to recuperate. I survived there for three weeks without ever having a shower or shampoo and having to beg for water to brush my teeth. They are called skilled nursing facilities. After my husband fell and broke his femur, he was sent to one. I am convinced that they killed him. He kept getting infections and I would get phone calls that he was in the emergency room. I would get in the car and drive to the hospital (23 miles) and stay with him. It was just one horror after another. As I said at 89 I am probably in the last few years of my life. Even so I live in our house by myself. I have a cleaning person every three weeks and that seems to be enough. I can still drive (even on the freeways) so I am quite independent. I truly believe that the fact that I do not have to take a bunch of drugs is keeping me healthy. I have noted down your email address, but I cannot make any commitment that I will reach out. At least not now.

REPLY

That’s ok Marilyn, I hope you’re not getting sick of me! The reason I can reply quickly is I’ve been in bed all day depressed. Normally I work…I work freelance from home from about 10 am to 4 pm most weekdays but when I woke today I couldn’t face it. I’m not normally like this but things have been getting on top of me..the tears have welled up a few times today. I must say I’m shocked at what you’ve said about that place you were sent to recuperate after your hip replacement. That sounds dreadful…I thought that in the US your insurance pays for good healthcare? I’ve had ops both privately and on the NHS and I’ve generally had really good experiences of the NHS and the doctors are amazing…not like the private doctors who generally make it clear it’s all about the money (although I once saw a respiratory consultant privately because my GP wouldn’t refer me and after seeing me he refused to take payment and immediately referred me to a lovely NHS respiratory consultant at St George’s Hospital in London). That must have been really scary to have been in that place…those nurses should be ashamed of themselves. You must be a strong lady to get through that. That’s when your sons should have come to your aid (having said that I don’t think my son would come to my aid if and when I need help). When my father got ill, I dropped everything and went with him to hospital and would visit him three times a week. I’m glad I did that because he died within two months at the age of 59. I could write a whole lot more but I’ll sign off now. I’m glad you’ve got a great counsellor. Au revoir, Jan

REPLY
@jankiss

Dear Marilyn, I know how damaging it is to be called stupid as a child. My mother was a cruel mother. I have three brothers and she didn’t like us getting on together…she liked to cause divisions between us. I used to get on well with my eldest brother when we were in our mid teens and she suggested to me one day that we were incestuous. That’s how evil she is. She called us all stupid. I actually believed her so when I got put into the top stream at high school I thought they’d been some mistake! My brothers were all in the bottom stream but they weren’t stupid either. They were amazing at art and carpentry etc but they just weren’t any good at academic subjects. My mother showed no interest in our schooling whatsoever. I once overheard her whispering to my future sister in law that we’d always been thick. When I had my own son he was extremely bright and we both took the official MENSA test and passed. His was 166 and mine was 133 which meant that I just scraped through (I think the lowest is 132 to qualify as a pass). I was 32 at the time and when my mother found out I had become a member of MENSA she said “what did you go and do that for?”. I stopped having any interaction with her when my father died when I was in my early thirties. She’s written me some poison letters over the years until my husband told her no mother should be sending her daughter letters like that. I really don’t know why she had children as she’s not maternal at all. She’s 86 now and I won’t even be going to her funeral when the time comes. It’s amazing that she’s religious (Jehovahs Witness) and when she’s with her religious friends she’s as sweet as can be to them but unfortunately not to her own children. Like you, I’ve always found it hard to mix with people too and only have about three friends who I see once a year for lunch or dinner. People think I’m confident but the reality is a lot of my life has been spent with an inferiority complex. I wish I lived near you as I would love to have you as a friend but alas I think you are in the US and I am in the UK! It’s unfortunate that your son only calls you out of duty but I’ve come to the conclusion that having children is only rewarding for a certain period of time. My son thought I was the best mother in the world but after he reached mid-thirties his visits became more sporadic and now we are lucky to get a call or text once every six months! It’s a horrible feeling to feel sick of living but I think we all feel like that sometimes. I certainly do and I remember occasionally feeling like that every so often from a young age. I’ve got a happy marriage but at times I feel very alone. My husband’s wonderful in some ways but not a very good listening ear so I feel I haven’t got anyone to talk which is the loneliest feeling in the world.

Jump to this post

I can understand that. Well now you have friends on here that you can talk to and vent to ! Many listening ears! Try to find something that you enjoy doing , a hobby or something that use to make you smile and feel good!🤗🤎🧡

REPLY
@nemo1

Hello! Thank you. I hope what I write makes sense. I wanted to write you, sensing an urgency. Seeking God is nothing short of a beautiful…life changing and deserves every attention.

I think the answer to what you seek is in what you have written. Let your heart be your guide. Follow the small but present inner voice. We all have that albeit small voice we need to amplify. God is waiting for us and is calling you personally. He is always there for us wether you have a religious home or not. He loves us all. It seems He is trying to get your attention. By talking about it and Him, I’d say you are on your way. Seek God. Jesus has been my best friend from early on. I’ve in life, fallen away but always come back to Him. Stronger each time. Read the story of Jesus at Gethsemane. People who struggle and have pain (any kind of pain) I think can identify with the Lord. This particular - Agony in the Garden. He had his disciples with him yet was alone at the most difficult time. He knows deeply what we endure and the struggles we face wanting us to know Him, follow, praise, adore Him.

I’m not sure you will need to “pick”. In your case I think you are being led by the Holy Spirit. It is picking you! Amen! Wanting to believe to believing may just take a leap of faith.

What you wrote is beautiful. Budding faith in God is glorious. I am going to pray for you tonight. Specifically that you find Jesus to be your best friend who saves and heals us over and again in so many ways…We live a human existence. So did the Lord. He knows our personal struggles and would never leave us. He wants us to be united in our faith with hope. Faith is believing without seeing, but Thomas (doubting Thomas to coin that phrase) doubted the resurrected Lord even while being in front of him and had to put his hands in his wounds to know it was Him.

He loves us all. Will never abandon us. Even when life brings us down He is there to guide us, teach us and live in and through us and lift us. I think the Holy Spirit is pulling you in His direction. Sometimes you just have to go with it, not overthink and answer His call.

Jesus is sad any of His children feel lost or disconnected. Your heart may just be on the cusp of being set ablaze with a fire that burns steady for His Holy Love.

Blessings and peace my friend.

Jump to this post

@nemo1 I am a believer too, and feel sad that so many people lump “religion” with “relationship with God”. One could follow a religion’s rites, rules and regulations and yet be no closer to God. It’s the relationship and walk with Him that really matters and brings us close to Him.

REPLY

Can you join a small group of people at Church maybe?

REPLY
@nathandavid

Can you join a small group of people at Church maybe?

Jump to this post

@nathandavid to whom are you responding?

REPLY

Well hello there! You are the same age as my Grandma. It's okay and natural to feel this way sometimes. What is important is that you reached out.
I can relate to what you said about being around people and in crowds, I suffer from social anxiety disorder and I get panic attacks around people. I spend a great deal of my time alone.
Another commenter suggested church. That will work greatly.

Also another thing that I would like to suggest is if you are physically able, go for a walk on nice days. Go to a nearby park. Take a book. Just focus on what is around you. When you were young (you grew up during one of my favorite generations, women had class and men were gentlemen) you must of had a hobby or were interested in something. Try to rediscover that interest.
Don't think about the bad stuff, think about what always made YOU happy and try to revisit those things. Maybe a trip if your health allows for it.. Think about you.
You are dwelling on all that is melancholy. Don't do that. I'm here if you ever need to chat.

I don't have many friends, I'm unmarried. However, I learned that I must not rely on others to make me me happy and I will never feel sorry for myself. Not implying you do that, just a bit of advice. Make your own happiness. 🙂

REPLY
@thisismarilynb

I sent an email to my therapist to arrange for an appointment. I think a lot of my problems stem from low self esteem. Even though I am told differently, I can still hear my mother's voice telling me how stupid I am. I want to talk to my therapist about how to get her voice out of my head.

Jump to this post

I am very very sorry for all you have suffered. My own history is not all that different. And, over the years I have been suicidal as well. Mostly in 1983 and 1984, after being a violent crime victim.

Yes, therapists help.

But, you know, just be patient about everything. You have been profoundly wounded by life.

That may take some time to heal.

You are a strong person.

If not, you would have never posted at all.

That strength will serve you well and things will get better over time.

My mother did horrible, horrible things to me and to my brother. Criminal things.

But, we are both still here. My brother just got back from a wonderful birding trip in nature.

I am a faithful servant to my cat. I just do whatever she wants me to do. She makes me call her, "Your Majesty." It is not a relationship based on parity, but I don't mind serving my Queen.

Hang in there. Take care now.

REPLY
@samcal9977zz

I am very very sorry for all you have suffered. My own history is not all that different. And, over the years I have been suicidal as well. Mostly in 1983 and 1984, after being a violent crime victim.

Yes, therapists help.

But, you know, just be patient about everything. You have been profoundly wounded by life.

That may take some time to heal.

You are a strong person.

If not, you would have never posted at all.

That strength will serve you well and things will get better over time.

My mother did horrible, horrible things to me and to my brother. Criminal things.

But, we are both still here. My brother just got back from a wonderful birding trip in nature.

I am a faithful servant to my cat. I just do whatever she wants me to do. She makes me call her, "Your Majesty." It is not a relationship based on parity, but I don't mind serving my Queen.

Hang in there. Take care now.

Jump to this post

Thank you for all your very positive comments. I am not sure I deserve them but I certainly appreciate them. Right now I am in a very low and contemplative mood. For whatever reason I have been called a negative person. This has hit me very hard because I never thought this about myself. Evidently, though, this is what they see. So for now I am keeping a low profile. I do not have a pet, although many people recommend this. I enjoy watching shows about animals but I do not think I am capable of actually having a pet in the house. To your last sentence, I am hanging in because what else can I do? Again, I thank you.

REPLY
@thisismarilynb

Thank you for all your very positive comments. I am not sure I deserve them but I certainly appreciate them. Right now I am in a very low and contemplative mood. For whatever reason I have been called a negative person. This has hit me very hard because I never thought this about myself. Evidently, though, this is what they see. So for now I am keeping a low profile. I do not have a pet, although many people recommend this. I enjoy watching shows about animals but I do not think I am capable of actually having a pet in the house. To your last sentence, I am hanging in because what else can I do? Again, I thank you.

Jump to this post

Don't listen to anyone calling you negative.

That is gaslighting, plain and simple.

They criticize you, so that makes you dwell on their comments, instead on the fact that they are cold, indifferent and abusive.

Just classic gaslighting.

Don't listen to a word of it.

Every single human on the planet, who goes through enormous medical problems becomes "negative." It's called reality.

Something they clearly do not want to deal with.

They are simply trying to run away from their conscience, from their responsibility to someone who is suffering.

Yeah, as far as "hanging in there" goes....sometimes if we just hunker down and survive the day in bed, watching TV, being a potato of the couch....that is enough. In that time, our mind and emotions get rest. That rests our nervous system. That clears our thoughts.

And it is rest like that, that finds solutions.

And sometimes the solution is to just take it one day at a time...sometimes one hour at a time.

I literally do that.

Sometimes I will schedule tasks for myself to do, each hour of the day, to just get through the day.

And by "tasks" sometimes I mean, do 5 crossword words this hour, do another 5 next hour...like that.

What we suffer...these kinds of problems? And with it, the unknowns? This is the hardest work that human beings get on the planet. There is nothing harder. And that makes us pure warriors...tougher than Olympic athletes....by far.

take care

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.