@wandagoode it’s amazing things you learn to do differently the grabbers are my best friend especially picking my cane up when I drop it. I had an L4-S1 fusion April 2023 pain got getter then 3 weeks after fusion someone put their hands on my shoulder and twist me. Seen a he nurse practitioner on week 4 was told it might be a set back but I could start lifting 30 lbs( I started ll barely lift a gallon of milk) and bending and twisting after showering that night I bent down to dry my lower legs and felt a burning across my back. Neurosurgeon didn’t recommend no brace, said I would only be off work 3 months a year later I’m still off , he kept me off 4-1/2 months and said it’s healed and released me. I met my new family doctor and she signed me off the other 1-1/2 months. My pain is 10x worse but hey I can go play football, everything is healed sorry the surgery didn’t help I don’t recommend any more surgeries. Now I can barely walk with a cane , just got approved for disability yesterday, 29 years as a pipefitter and said I could climb ladders lift heavy pipe. With so much pain and numbness to the testicles and anus, sciatic nerves you never know when they will zap you, physical therapy on land and water didn’t help. I now go get in the water and walk. I was sent to a pelvic therapist that has helped the most . The he tailbone pains still severe it’s hard to sleep since I can’t lay on my back without legs going numb or on my side because legs go numb.