Update on trying Grand Attack zero drop wide toe box shoes:
I ordered the women's beige. Measured 8.5, but Amazon recommended 9, so I got the 9, particularly since I was hoping to add my footscientific OTC pronation (type 1) insoles and wear in the house, and to do many of my foot PT exercises at home. Glad I got the 9. But the tag on the shoe says they can be worn for swimming, and I need a wide water shoe, so I may end up using them in the saltwater pool (as is or with an inexpensive OTC arch support. Too soon to say. First impressions: Great cushioning; nice wide, stretchy toe area. I have high insteps and there's plenty of stretchy lacing and long velcro straps