I wonder if Tymlos and Forteo only help trabecular bones.

Posted by drsuefowler @drsuefowler, Mar 24 2:39pm

I tried for many years to take care of my osteoporosis the natural way by eating well, taking supplements and exercising. Unfortunately, it did not work for me. After breaking 2 bones in 2022, last spring I attempted the full dose of Tymlos but could not adjust to the side effects. I broke 2 more bones last summer, so I started ramping up my Tymlos dosage last fall. I was on 20mcg or 2 clicks when I suffered a stress or fragility fracture in my second metasarsal of my left foot. I increased my dosage to 40mcg or 4 clicks. It has been over 7 weeks since I broke the bone in my foot and it has not healed. Every other bone I have broken has healed in about 6 weeks. Is it possible that the Tymlos is making it harder for me to heal?

There was someone on this site who was unhappy with her results from Forteo and Dr McCormick writes in his book Great Bones that sometimes these medications don't work. These medications are good for spinal bones, but what about other bones? I read an article in a medical journal that stated, "Daily injections of PTH decrease cortical bone mass and increase trabecular bone mass." Both Forteo and Tymlos increase PTH. My fractured metatarsal bone is mostly cortical.

I have an appointment with my endocrinologist in two weeks and will discuss this with him. Unfortunately, I don't think he will know the answer, because he didn't know that Strontium interferes with DEXA results and he doesn't see a problem with Prolia. I asked my orthopedist and he just said they think Tymlos helps.

Does anyone have positive results from Tymlos or Forteo for hips as well as spine? Any suggestions on how to heal my broken foot?

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@drsuefowler

Yes @windyshores I think it was me. I am so sensitive to medication and usually only do take half a dose of anything. I had also asked my endo about a lower dose, and he was fine with it. You had great results with a partial dose, but higher than what I am taking. I plan to talk to my endo about this. Maybe I should consider Evenity? I appreciate that you have posted ways to use partial doses with Tymlos, Evenity and Reclast. There has to be a way for us overly sensitive people to strengthen our bones!

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I started with full dose Evenity and then for the next two months, declined the second shot and only had one, so a half dose. I'll let you know my results. But most people do fine with it of course.

I continued to have side effects with Tymlos. I just want to make sure I am clear that ramping up/partial dose made it possible but did not entirely get rid of side effects.

I absolutely could not tolerate Forteo. This was before Tymlos was available. I tried everything. I went to an immunologist. I even used my kid's insulin syringe to draw up a 10% dose which was just not tolerable. So I get it when you say you couldn't tolerate it.

With Tymlos, I used a blood pressure cuff, hydrated, ate salty things, played around with timing, and after all my fractures (7 spinal) was grateful to tolerate 7 clicks for much of the time. Mysteriously I never tolerated 8!

We are all different. I am having neuro issues and joint pain on Evenity but the thing is, with Evenity, there is quite substantial bone growth (if it is working) in just a few months.

I hope you find a path to better bone health and I get it!

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@sallyj2

I’m so sorry! That’s why I’m afraid of those drugs because there can be slight breakdown of cortical bone as mentioned in the patient pamphlets. What do your doctors say about Evenuty? It is supposed to be better for non-vertebral bones from what I’ve read and been told, I had a friend with a leg fracture that wasn’t healing who was told to add strontium citrate. I’m just still shocked that we can’t have reliable information, I hope you begin to heal quickly.

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@sallyj2 just want to repeat: Tymlos does not apparently cause loss of cortical bone, as Forteo might- according to my docs.

And I had 9% gain in hip on Tymlos.

ps this is not to say Forteo isn't a good medicine!

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@windyshores

@sallyj2 just want to repeat: Tymlos does not apparently cause loss of cortical bone, as Forteo might- according to my docs.

And I had 9% gain in hip on Tymlos.

ps this is not to say Forteo isn't a good medicine!

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I am so happy you had a gain in your hips! My doctor said that he thought eventually, by the end of treatment, that people would see gains in their hips, but that it was theoretically possible to lose a little cortical bone at first. He said, that might not correlate to increased fracture risk. Hard dilemmas!

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@sallyj2

I am so happy you had a gain in your hips! My doctor said that he thought eventually, by the end of treatment, that people would see gains in their hips, but that it was theoretically possible to lose a little cortical bone at first. He said, that might not correlate to increased fracture risk. Hard dilemmas!

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Yes it's interesting that docs say fracture risk improves even if bone markers don't show what we had hoped!

We are all between a rock and hard place and doing the best we can. I am looking up hip pads on Amazon! My femur neck is never going to be good enough, no matter what I do for meds or how long.

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@drsuefowler

Thanks @maybin. I just looked up periosteum and endosteum and see how important they are to our bones. Maybe that is why I have so much inflammation in my foot. You have great improvement in your spinal bone density. It is interesting that all the anabolics help most with that. I am still learning.

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I read there are ppl wearing special protective shoes while healing foot fractures, can't remember what source. Maybe look into that also?

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@drsuefowler

@mayblin, did you take the Tymlos first and then the Evenity? If so, why did you stop Tymlos early? I'm glad to hear of your good and excellent results! I will check out the Evenity website. Thanks

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I think this msg meant for @beanieone

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@beanieone

Please go to Evenity’s website - if I understand what I’m reading and, based on personal results, Evenity offers (and touts) better vertebral t-scores. My increases after about 9 months of Tymlos and 4 of Evenity were good at the femoral neck, however my spinal gains were excellent. Docs don’t even know what they’re talking about, how can we?

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Thanks @beanieone. I'm sorry that I responded to @mayblin by mistake. I wondered why you quit Tymlos after 9 months? I'm so glad you got good and excellent results. I did check Evenity's website. It is wonderful but also frustrating that the people that post on this website seem to know more about osteoporosis than my doctors.

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@mayblin

I read there are ppl wearing special protective shoes while healing foot fractures, can't remember what source. Maybe look into that also?

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Thanks @maybin. I will check that out.

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@drsuefowler

Thanks @beanieone. I'm sorry that I responded to @mayblin by mistake. I wondered why you quit Tymlos after 9 months? I'm so glad you got good and excellent results. I did check Evenity's website. It is wonderful but also frustrating that the people that post on this website seem to know more about osteoporosis than my doctors.

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Hi @drsuefowler, Thanks for your support.

I quit Tymlos after nine months; the last five were pretty debilitating. My doc knew about each new issue and I ended up telling him the cure was worse than any fracture I could or have suffered. Doc said no medical info about my symptoms.

Switched to Evenity and breathed a sigh of relief. I phoned Radius and made a long statement about symptoms and noted that several now appear on their website. Felt like a pioneer! 😆 Cheers!

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I was disappointed w/Tymlos results - my doctor was too. Unfortunately, they had no helpful insights or answers. Spine improved slightly; hip not at all. Still osteoporosis on the DXA. Doc now mentions prolia - doesn't mention any concerns like the difficulty of stopping after starting, (which I only learned about here). Concerning for women in their '50s. We could be on it for 3-4 decades!

I know my post probably isn't as helpful - others are chiming in with better info. Just think it's important to realize that some of us may not get the results often touted here or by our docs. We can do everything right - meds, diet, weight training, zero smoking or booze and still have issues. I feel like some docs oversell us on the effectiveness?

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