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@terri9

Hello,

I had the EXACT same thing happen to me. I was fine before my gallbladder was removed on July 4, 2020. No health issues, vitamin issues or anything. Afterward, I ended up having a lot of problems.

Digestion: Loose stool, floating stool and all that. I also felt horrible. For a while I was throwing up straight bile.

Sleep: One of the first things I noticed was how off my sleep was. Prior to removal, I slept really well....deep and long. Now, it feels like my sleep quality is horrible. It is light and I seem to wake up a lot. I don't sleep for long and I don't feel rested the next day. I also struggle with insomnia in general now.

Anxiety: It feels like I'm restless. Like I can't do any of my old hobbies (like reading) because I just feel I don't have the attention span/can't relax. And that isn't coming from "me"...it's like my body is doing it on its own. I had no issues relaxing before.

Cognitive/Neurological: I was a writer before. Now, my imagination is gone. That has been horrible for me. My brain feels like it processes things slower. Like I'm not as intelligent. For a long time after surgery, I experienced brain fog too. That has eased a tiny bit. Also, in the last few years, I suddenly developed tremors. A neurologist confirmed these tremors and said he has no idea what is causing them. I had very steady hands before surgery.

Vitamin Deficiencies: I was found to be deficient in B12, B1, and also vitamin D. Exactly like you. I have started to address that and it has helped, but not cured my problems.

Some of my blood tests have shown some issues since, but nothing the doctors seem to want to address.

Endurance/fitness: I was a runner before. I ran five miles every day. I worked out and was in shape. Now, I have zero endurance. I tried to run after. I really tried. However, my body just won't do it anymore. I still stay in shape by pushing myself to walk and lift some weights, but it is much harder and I don't have the cardio endurance like I used to. It no longer feels easy. I have to fight it all the time.

Health Problems Diagnosed with since: Fatty liver, thyroid nodule, tremors, mild heart valve problems, vitamin deficiencies, and Sjogren's autoimmune disease. Had NONE of this before. And why do I have a fatty liver? I am not eating a ton of bad food and I am not sedentary. So why?

Basically, getting my gallbladder removed ruined my health entirely. Before, I felt like I was still in my 20's even though I was 36 years old. Now, I feel so much older than my age. I struggle every single day with these new chronic conditions and I curse the day I decided to listen to the doctors and have mine removed. And now...no doctors want to help. They just shrug and want to treat some of the symptoms with various medications. No one wants to investigate and no one wants to try to figure it out.

Personally, my theory is several things. I think like you said that serotonin is off. I used to be very happy in general. Now, I'm not. It even changed my personality. I don't really want to do the same things I used to. And this isn't just me being upset about what happened. I mean...I don't even feel like myself. We know most serotonin is made in the gut. I think the bile there alters the gut microbiome as well as harming the gut lining changing serotonin production/how it is used.

I also know for a fact I frequently have gastritis. This can cause B vitamin absorption issues....particularly B12. So I think I constantly have that going on now. Before I had an iron stomach...no problems at all.

So, I think our gut is the key to our health and that messing it up this badly really messes with our health. Have you had any success with figuring out how to handle this? Any updates on your health? Have you found any doctors that actually care to take an interest?

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"Have you had any success with figuring out how to handle this? Any updates on your health? Have you found any doctors that actually care to take an interest?"

Along with the other issues, my athletic ability also rapidly declined. I was in the best shape of my life heading into this. Three days after my surgery, I walked five miles. Six months later, I was unable to stand without staggering. I couldn't run because my knees felt weak and would buckle while walking. I also lost sensation in my muscles and did not get that calm, satisfied feeling after exercise. I too wondered if this was how old age felt. This has improved with training, but two years postop, I am still not as strong or coordinated as before.

I suspect that the surgical procedure, or changes to digestion and nutritional deficiencies , or all of the above, had some sort of effect on the central nervous system. There is still so much that's unknown about how the brain works, or even the mechanism of how the anesthesia and a few other drugs I received prior to and during surgery work. So figuring out if this was the cause may be fruitless.

My cognitive issues have improved the most, but I continue to lose my train of thought. Finding words on the fly, as well as motivation and focus, are still challenges. I attribute those to persistent insomnia, and I'm hoping that if that improves, the remaining cognitive issues will as well.

After being gaslighted on several occasions, I believe I have found a physician who is as perplexed as I am and is working with me. I've had numerous blood and hormone tests, and almost everything appears to be fine. My brain MRI revealed nothing that could explain these issues. The Indican test was abnormal, which prompted me to suspect that tryptophan metabolism is broken. That might explain insomnia as a functioning tryptophan > serotonin pathway is a precursor for proper sleep.

I should mention that in the time period prior to and after the surgery, I was experiencing chronic stress due to some personal issues with my family. Stress makes everything worse, but I was able to manage it prior to and immediately after the surgery. Only after the cognitive symptoms began in earnest was I unable to handle any stress at all. Also, I can't tolerate caffeine afterward because even half a cup makes me extremely jittery, sweat profusely, and unable to sleep at all. I owned a coffee shop before and had a pretty high caffeine tolerance.

Also, the contrast MRI I did prior to surgery discovered some lesions on my pelvic bone that they wanted to further investigate, so I underwent a full body PET scan and another contrast MRI about a month post op. The lesions were benign. My cognitive symptoms started after these two tests, but I don't necessarily believe they are the cause, although I can't rule them out either.

Were you experiencing chronic stress at the time, and what specific scans did they perform on you?