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Here is a table that addresses PMR in the spectrum of auto-inflammtory vs autoimmune . I will find the actual reference. -
--Floris A, Piga M, Cauli A, Salvarani C, Mathieu A. Polymyalgia rheumatica: an autoinflammatory disorder? RMD Open. 2018 Jun 4;4(1):e000694. doi: 10.1136/rmdopen-2018-000694. PMID: 29955386; PMCID: PMC6018871.
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Is this the reference you are referring to?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6018871/"In summary, despite the incomplete knowledge of PMR pathophysiology and the lack of validate discriminative criteria for polygenic autoinflammatory disorders (AIDs), current evidence suggests that PMR does not easily fit into any of the two pure ends in the spectrum of the immune-mediated disorders, but a greater affinity for AIDs seems to emerge."
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I don't think they really know what PMR is. Perhaps a combination of autoinflammatory and autoimmune.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34798314/#:~:text=Background%20and%20aim%3A%20Polymyalgia%20rheumatica,partially%20understood%20immune%2Dmediated%20mechanisms.My rheumatologist made a comment to me once that made me curious. I'm not sure what disorder he was referring to because I have several. We were discussing "immune system memory." His comment was, "my immune system was unlikely to forget what it has been attacking for so many years."
I googled "immune system memory and autoimmune disorders." I found the following:
"In an autoimmune response, when memory cells are formed against the “self,” they help mount a highly efficient pathogenic response against the body's own tissues. These memory cells, by virtue of being long lived also become very difficult to eliminate."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4067599/#:~:text=In%20an%20autoimmune%20response%2C%20when,become%20very%20difficult%20to%20eliminate.--------------------------------------
PMR is supposed to "burn itself out" in a year or two which suggests more of an innate immune response. That clearly didn't happen in my case. The longer PMR persists, maybe it becomes an adaptive immune response.
I'm just glad an IL-6 inhibitor seems to stop my PMR symptoms. Unfortunately, my symptoms have returned whenever Actemra was stopped. This might explain why my rheumatologist has no plan to stop Actemra anytime soon. During our discussion about when to stop Actemra was when he made the "immune system memory" comment.
People with RA and other types of inflammatory arthritis don't ever have their biologics stopped unless the biologic stops working. That is usually when their immune systems form antibodies against the biologic.