I went to Dr. Schaeffer for a consultation he brought this procedure up but I think I'm against surgery for myself. I'm headed to Dr. Woodrum for a clinical study Tuesday on Tulsa procedure under advanced imaging. I don't know if anybody knows about Dr. woodroom. When I look at the incontinence and ED rates, even in the hands of the best surgeons, calling life issues to me or everything being a 3+4 and a Polaris score of 3.3 my thought is at the very least kick the can down the road and deal with 2030 technology versus 2024.