Cervical Stenosis

Posted by Oly T @otavares, Feb 1 12:01pm

Was diagnosed cervical stenosis (moderate/severe per MRI)this last November 2023.
My biggest symptoms was not the pain associated with neck issue.
Symptoms of concern were, pressure in neck and head that I believe was causing dizziness in my walk and certain confusion at at times.
Do have weakness in arms as well.
Doing a lot of research on line into possible surgery.
Finding positive results with orthopedic surgeons using the ultra-sonic medical device to widen your nerve openings to possibly
reduce symptoms .
Anyone has had this procedure, all feedback is welcome .

O Tavares

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@dmp19651989

My husband had neck surgery in 2021. He has weakness in his arms and legs. It is getting difficult for him to even open a door. He is 61 and is on disability for degnerative disc disease, ankylosing spondolytis, spinal stenosis. He has been seeing a pain management doctor and has had several injections. This is not the same doctor that did the neck surgery. He is sick of seeing doctors. This is the results from his last Cervical WO Contrast-CT in 2022. Can someone help me out? The doctor who did his surgery says there is nothing wrong and even though his arms felt better for about six months, he says there is nothing else he can do.

Neck and bilateral arm pain with weakness.History of ACDF in March 2021. COMPARISON: None TECHNICAL INFORMATION: High resolution thinsection CT imaging was performed through the postoperative levels and adjacent transition levels. Highresolution coronal and sagittal reformatted images were produced. Bilateral artifact reduction imageswere also obtained. INTERPRETATION: Digital scout radiographs show anterior screw and plate at C5-6and C6-7, status post ACDF. Lung apices appear clear. Craniocervical junction structures areunremarkable. Congruent occipitocervical and C1-2 articulations. Adequate space available for the cordat C1. C2-3: Mild central stenosis, 1 mm spondylolisthesis, right hypertrophic facet degeneration andmoderate to severe right foraminal stenosis. C3-4: Central disc protrusion contacts and indents the cordwith mild central stenosis. Right hypertrophic facet arthropathy and severe right foraminal stenosis. C4-5: 1.5 mm spondylolisthesis, osteophyte and bulge abut the cord with mild central stenosis andadvanced right hypertrophic facet arthropathy. Moderate to severe right foraminal stenosis and patentleft nerve root canal. C5-6 and C6-7: Interbody fusions appear solid. Anterior screws and plate are intact without loosening or fatigue. Mild recumbent kyphosis at C6-7 and mild residual central stenosis at each level. Left greater than right facet degeneration at C5-6 and right greater than left facet degeneration at C6-7, severe chronic bilateral foraminal stenosis at C6-7 and severe on the left at C5-6.C7-T1: No disc herniation or central stenosis, hypertrophic facet arthropathy and patent foramina. CONCLUSION: 1. Solid interbody fusion at C5-6 and C6-7 with residual facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis, as reported. 2. Central disc protrusion at C3-4 contacts the cord, mild central stenosis and severe right facet degeneration/severe right foraminal stenosis. 3. Right hypertrophic facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis at C2-3 and C4-5. 4. No fractures identified.
Thanks in advance

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Unfortunately we do not. He has had two EMT and they say tell us there are no pinched nerves causing the weakness in his arms. Really frustrated.

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@dmp19651989

My husband had neck surgery in 2021. He has weakness in his arms and legs. It is getting difficult for him to even open a door. He is 61 and is on disability for degnerative disc disease, ankylosing spondolytis, spinal stenosis. He has been seeing a pain management doctor and has had several injections. This is not the same doctor that did the neck surgery. He is sick of seeing doctors. This is the results from his last Cervical WO Contrast-CT in 2022. Can someone help me out? The doctor who did his surgery says there is nothing wrong and even though his arms felt better for about six months, he says there is nothing else he can do.

Neck and bilateral arm pain with weakness.History of ACDF in March 2021. COMPARISON: None TECHNICAL INFORMATION: High resolution thinsection CT imaging was performed through the postoperative levels and adjacent transition levels. Highresolution coronal and sagittal reformatted images were produced. Bilateral artifact reduction imageswere also obtained. INTERPRETATION: Digital scout radiographs show anterior screw and plate at C5-6and C6-7, status post ACDF. Lung apices appear clear. Craniocervical junction structures areunremarkable. Congruent occipitocervical and C1-2 articulations. Adequate space available for the cordat C1. C2-3: Mild central stenosis, 1 mm spondylolisthesis, right hypertrophic facet degeneration andmoderate to severe right foraminal stenosis. C3-4: Central disc protrusion contacts and indents the cordwith mild central stenosis. Right hypertrophic facet arthropathy and severe right foraminal stenosis. C4-5: 1.5 mm spondylolisthesis, osteophyte and bulge abut the cord with mild central stenosis andadvanced right hypertrophic facet arthropathy. Moderate to severe right foraminal stenosis and patentleft nerve root canal. C5-6 and C6-7: Interbody fusions appear solid. Anterior screws and plate are intact without loosening or fatigue. Mild recumbent kyphosis at C6-7 and mild residual central stenosis at each level. Left greater than right facet degeneration at C5-6 and right greater than left facet degeneration at C6-7, severe chronic bilateral foraminal stenosis at C6-7 and severe on the left at C5-6.C7-T1: No disc herniation or central stenosis, hypertrophic facet arthropathy and patent foramina. CONCLUSION: 1. Solid interbody fusion at C5-6 and C6-7 with residual facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis, as reported. 2. Central disc protrusion at C3-4 contacts the cord, mild central stenosis and severe right facet degeneration/severe right foraminal stenosis. 3. Right hypertrophic facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis at C2-3 and C4-5. 4. No fractures identified.
Thanks in advance

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A disc in contact with the cord and "severe" stenosis sounds serious. Does he have a good neurologist?

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@dmp19651989

My husband had neck surgery in 2021. He has weakness in his arms and legs. It is getting difficult for him to even open a door. He is 61 and is on disability for degnerative disc disease, ankylosing spondolytis, spinal stenosis. He has been seeing a pain management doctor and has had several injections. This is not the same doctor that did the neck surgery. He is sick of seeing doctors. This is the results from his last Cervical WO Contrast-CT in 2022. Can someone help me out? The doctor who did his surgery says there is nothing wrong and even though his arms felt better for about six months, he says there is nothing else he can do.

Neck and bilateral arm pain with weakness.History of ACDF in March 2021. COMPARISON: None TECHNICAL INFORMATION: High resolution thinsection CT imaging was performed through the postoperative levels and adjacent transition levels. Highresolution coronal and sagittal reformatted images were produced. Bilateral artifact reduction imageswere also obtained. INTERPRETATION: Digital scout radiographs show anterior screw and plate at C5-6and C6-7, status post ACDF. Lung apices appear clear. Craniocervical junction structures areunremarkable. Congruent occipitocervical and C1-2 articulations. Adequate space available for the cordat C1. C2-3: Mild central stenosis, 1 mm spondylolisthesis, right hypertrophic facet degeneration andmoderate to severe right foraminal stenosis. C3-4: Central disc protrusion contacts and indents the cordwith mild central stenosis. Right hypertrophic facet arthropathy and severe right foraminal stenosis. C4-5: 1.5 mm spondylolisthesis, osteophyte and bulge abut the cord with mild central stenosis andadvanced right hypertrophic facet arthropathy. Moderate to severe right foraminal stenosis and patentleft nerve root canal. C5-6 and C6-7: Interbody fusions appear solid. Anterior screws and plate are intact without loosening or fatigue. Mild recumbent kyphosis at C6-7 and mild residual central stenosis at each level. Left greater than right facet degeneration at C5-6 and right greater than left facet degeneration at C6-7, severe chronic bilateral foraminal stenosis at C6-7 and severe on the left at C5-6.C7-T1: No disc herniation or central stenosis, hypertrophic facet arthropathy and patent foramina. CONCLUSION: 1. Solid interbody fusion at C5-6 and C6-7 with residual facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis, as reported. 2. Central disc protrusion at C3-4 contacts the cord, mild central stenosis and severe right facet degeneration/severe right foraminal stenosis. 3. Right hypertrophic facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis at C2-3 and C4-5. 4. No fractures identified.
Thanks in advance

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The radiologist doesn't use the word severe lightly. The cord is being compressed. Find someone else asap. I too am tired of doctors, but this is not something he should fool around with.

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@dmp19651989

My husband had neck surgery in 2021. He has weakness in his arms and legs. It is getting difficult for him to even open a door. He is 61 and is on disability for degnerative disc disease, ankylosing spondolytis, spinal stenosis. He has been seeing a pain management doctor and has had several injections. This is not the same doctor that did the neck surgery. He is sick of seeing doctors. This is the results from his last Cervical WO Contrast-CT in 2022. Can someone help me out? The doctor who did his surgery says there is nothing wrong and even though his arms felt better for about six months, he says there is nothing else he can do.

Neck and bilateral arm pain with weakness.History of ACDF in March 2021. COMPARISON: None TECHNICAL INFORMATION: High resolution thinsection CT imaging was performed through the postoperative levels and adjacent transition levels. Highresolution coronal and sagittal reformatted images were produced. Bilateral artifact reduction imageswere also obtained. INTERPRETATION: Digital scout radiographs show anterior screw and plate at C5-6and C6-7, status post ACDF. Lung apices appear clear. Craniocervical junction structures areunremarkable. Congruent occipitocervical and C1-2 articulations. Adequate space available for the cordat C1. C2-3: Mild central stenosis, 1 mm spondylolisthesis, right hypertrophic facet degeneration andmoderate to severe right foraminal stenosis. C3-4: Central disc protrusion contacts and indents the cordwith mild central stenosis. Right hypertrophic facet arthropathy and severe right foraminal stenosis. C4-5: 1.5 mm spondylolisthesis, osteophyte and bulge abut the cord with mild central stenosis andadvanced right hypertrophic facet arthropathy. Moderate to severe right foraminal stenosis and patentleft nerve root canal. C5-6 and C6-7: Interbody fusions appear solid. Anterior screws and plate are intact without loosening or fatigue. Mild recumbent kyphosis at C6-7 and mild residual central stenosis at each level. Left greater than right facet degeneration at C5-6 and right greater than left facet degeneration at C6-7, severe chronic bilateral foraminal stenosis at C6-7 and severe on the left at C5-6.C7-T1: No disc herniation or central stenosis, hypertrophic facet arthropathy and patent foramina. CONCLUSION: 1. Solid interbody fusion at C5-6 and C6-7 with residual facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis, as reported. 2. Central disc protrusion at C3-4 contacts the cord, mild central stenosis and severe right facet degeneration/severe right foraminal stenosis. 3. Right hypertrophic facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis at C2-3 and C4-5. 4. No fractures identified.
Thanks in advance

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He has not went to a neurologist. Has only doctored with an orthopedic doctor as he was doctoring with his lower back and then had arm pain so they did the CT of his neck to see if he had a pinched nerve and discovered the degenerative disks. I’m my opinion, the doc who did his neck surgery was only concerned about the hardware he put in and blew off anything else this scan indicated - very unhappy with a few choice names for him.

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@dmp19651989

My husband had neck surgery in 2021. He has weakness in his arms and legs. It is getting difficult for him to even open a door. He is 61 and is on disability for degnerative disc disease, ankylosing spondolytis, spinal stenosis. He has been seeing a pain management doctor and has had several injections. This is not the same doctor that did the neck surgery. He is sick of seeing doctors. This is the results from his last Cervical WO Contrast-CT in 2022. Can someone help me out? The doctor who did his surgery says there is nothing wrong and even though his arms felt better for about six months, he says there is nothing else he can do.

Neck and bilateral arm pain with weakness.History of ACDF in March 2021. COMPARISON: None TECHNICAL INFORMATION: High resolution thinsection CT imaging was performed through the postoperative levels and adjacent transition levels. Highresolution coronal and sagittal reformatted images were produced. Bilateral artifact reduction imageswere also obtained. INTERPRETATION: Digital scout radiographs show anterior screw and plate at C5-6and C6-7, status post ACDF. Lung apices appear clear. Craniocervical junction structures areunremarkable. Congruent occipitocervical and C1-2 articulations. Adequate space available for the cordat C1. C2-3: Mild central stenosis, 1 mm spondylolisthesis, right hypertrophic facet degeneration andmoderate to severe right foraminal stenosis. C3-4: Central disc protrusion contacts and indents the cordwith mild central stenosis. Right hypertrophic facet arthropathy and severe right foraminal stenosis. C4-5: 1.5 mm spondylolisthesis, osteophyte and bulge abut the cord with mild central stenosis andadvanced right hypertrophic facet arthropathy. Moderate to severe right foraminal stenosis and patentleft nerve root canal. C5-6 and C6-7: Interbody fusions appear solid. Anterior screws and plate are intact without loosening or fatigue. Mild recumbent kyphosis at C6-7 and mild residual central stenosis at each level. Left greater than right facet degeneration at C5-6 and right greater than left facet degeneration at C6-7, severe chronic bilateral foraminal stenosis at C6-7 and severe on the left at C5-6.C7-T1: No disc herniation or central stenosis, hypertrophic facet arthropathy and patent foramina. CONCLUSION: 1. Solid interbody fusion at C5-6 and C6-7 with residual facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis, as reported. 2. Central disc protrusion at C3-4 contacts the cord, mild central stenosis and severe right facet degeneration/severe right foraminal stenosis. 3. Right hypertrophic facet degeneration and foraminal stenosis at C2-3 and C4-5. 4. No fractures identified.
Thanks in advance

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Hello @dmp19651989 - I combined your discussion with another recent discussion titled "Cervical Stenosis" - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/cervical-stenosis-3/.

I did this so you could meet other recent members posting about their experiences with cervical stenosis as well, like @otavares and @johnnoregon.

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Did any of this surgery help the weakness in your husband's legs? The reason I ask is that I just recently had a cervical MRI but have not met yet with the orthopedic doctor. My problem is mostly weakness in the legs. My arms are fine

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@dmp19651989

He has not went to a neurologist. Has only doctored with an orthopedic doctor as he was doctoring with his lower back and then had arm pain so they did the CT of his neck to see if he had a pinched nerve and discovered the degenerative disks. I’m my opinion, the doc who did his neck surgery was only concerned about the hardware he put in and blew off anything else this scan indicated - very unhappy with a few choice names for him.

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@dmp19650989 I use a neurologist for my cervical issues, and an ortho who does not do surgery. I have not yet reached the point of consulting a surgeon. I wonder if another doc in neuro or ortho could help. Do you have a positive Babinski reflex? I have that and it indicates spinal cord damage. Contact with the cord is concerning as I wrote before. It shouldn't be so hard to get help in your situation!

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@hopeann

Did any of this surgery help the weakness in your husband's legs? The reason I ask is that I just recently had a cervical MRI but have not met yet with the orthopedic doctor. My problem is mostly weakness in the legs. My arms are fine

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At the time of his surgery, he didn’t have much weakness in his legs. He was mainly having the pain in his arms - as he described it - like an electrical shock shooting down his arm. It really scared him while driving and turning and about lost control. He doesn’t drive now that it hasn’t gotten worse. He had a spacer put in his lower back about eight months ago as his legs hurt and his walking was so slow. The spacer seemed to help for 4-5 months at least we thought. He now says there are just times he feels his legs can’t support him. Not much help in answering your question. Sorry.

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@windyshores

@dmp19650989 I use a neurologist for my cervical issues, and an ortho who does not do surgery. I have not yet reached the point of consulting a surgeon. I wonder if another doc in neuro or ortho could help. Do you have a positive Babinski reflex? I have that and it indicates spinal cord damage. Contact with the cord is concerning as I wrote before. It shouldn't be so hard to get help in your situation!

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Can I ask what a babinski reflex is?

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@dmp19651989

Unfortunately we do not. He has had two EMT and they say tell us there are no pinched nerves causing the weakness in his arms. Really frustrated.

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@dmp19651989 Weakness in arms and legs can be caused by spinal cord compression in the neck. This was the situation I had because of bone spurs and a ruptured disc digging into my cervical spinal cord at the C5/C6 level and I did not have any issues at the nerve roots; it was all spinal cord symptoms causing everything. I could bend my neck forward and send a big electric shock down my entire body. I had surgery at Mayo that resolved all of it.

Would that perhaps be an option for you to have your husband evaluated at one of the Mayo campuses? That also depends on if your insurance is accepted by Mayo. I wasted 2 years chasing doctors who wouldn't help me, and it would have been better if I had just come to Mayo first. The neurosurgeon at Mayo was the sixth surgeon I consulted and the only one who got everything right in the diagnosis and the fix for it.

Here is the insurance information page if you wanted to check.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/patient-visitor-guide/billing-insurance
Jennifer

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